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	<title>Comments on: Agency of the year shortlists revealed</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Walton</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-23206</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic to see so many classy entries already for the Best Whinge award. Numbers don&#039;t usually jump until after the winners are announced, so clearly we are in for a bumper year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic to see so many classy entries already for the Best Whinge award. Numbers don&#8217;t usually jump until after the winners are announced, so clearly we are in for a bumper year.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Polites</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-23203</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Polites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter is right 80% comments are negative of:
    - 75% are anon 
    - 2.5%  counter competitive flaming
    - 2.5% valid negative comments

I don&#039;t really see the Mumbrella crowd any different than any other and are constantly surprised that people treat comments threads any different than IRL rumors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter is right 80% comments are negative of:<br />
    &#8211; 75% are anon<br />
    &#8211; 2.5%  counter competitive flaming<br />
    &#8211; 2.5% valid negative comments</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really see the Mumbrella crowd any different than any other and are constantly surprised that people treat comments threads any different than IRL rumors.</p>
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		<title>By: mumbrella</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-23200</link>
		<dc:creator>mumbrella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d probably make two points there, D.

As your IP address is BMF, you&#039;d probably know better than me what BMF is up to.

But hopefully you&#039;d also know that most awards have to be entered. Indeed, BMF is pretty good at entering awards itself. I&#039;m not sure that makes them fixed.

Why not go and have a chat to somebody senior at the agency and ask them to explain how it all works.

Cheers,

Tim - Mumbrella</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d probably make two points there, D.</p>
<p>As your IP address is BMF, you&#8217;d probably know better than me what BMF is up to.</p>
<p>But hopefully you&#8217;d also know that most awards have to be entered. Indeed, BMF is pretty good at entering awards itself. I&#8217;m not sure that makes them fixed.</p>
<p>Why not go and have a chat to somebody senior at the agency and ask them to explain how it all works.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tim &#8211; Mumbrella</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-23196</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where the hell is bmf and clem....

Clearly this is a bit rigged if you have to &#039;enter&#039;

what a load!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where the hell is bmf and clem&#8230;.</p>
<p>Clearly this is a bit rigged if you have to &#8216;enter&#8217;</p>
<p>what a load!</p>
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		<title>By: mumbrella</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22313</link>
		<dc:creator>mumbrella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,

That&#039;s a good point. Once we publish the actual submissions tomorrow, everyone will be able to debate from a slightly more informed position.

Cheers,

Tim - Mumbrella</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point. Once we publish the actual submissions tomorrow, everyone will be able to debate from a slightly more informed position.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tim &#8211; Mumbrella</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Bray</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22312</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Bray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mumbrella crowd is a hard one to please. Proof of having &quot;made it&quot; would be having  an article on Mumbrella about your work and having less than 80% of posters being negative. People giving social media a go on here get slaughtered (good on you all for giving it a go in my opinion!), and now people judge entrants in awards without even knowing what was in the actual entries. 

Something to remember: 17 000 or so people read Mumbrella, only a small percentage comment, so don&#039;t be discouraged people, the majority I suspect are far more supportive of our industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mumbrella crowd is a hard one to please. Proof of having &#8220;made it&#8221; would be having  an article on Mumbrella about your work and having less than 80% of posters being negative. People giving social media a go on here get slaughtered (good on you all for giving it a go in my opinion!), and now people judge entrants in awards without even knowing what was in the actual entries. </p>
<p>Something to remember: 17 000 or so people read Mumbrella, only a small percentage comment, so don&#8217;t be discouraged people, the majority I suspect are far more supportive of our industry.</p>
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		<title>By: version</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22302</link>
		<dc:creator>version</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MItchells don&#039;t enter awards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MItchells don&#8217;t enter awards.</p>
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		<title>By: moondoggie</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22289</link>
		<dc:creator>moondoggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack W has it spot on. My bet is that the agencies turning out consistently good work for the year are all too busy to enter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack W has it spot on. My bet is that the agencies turning out consistently good work for the year are all too busy to enter!</p>
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		<title>By: jack w</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22286</link>
		<dc:creator>jack w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on you for trying something different Tim. But I am afraid the quality of the awards will ultimately depend on the quality of the entries. And obviously the good agencies didn&#039;t both to enter....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on you for trying something different Tim. But I am afraid the quality of the awards will ultimately depend on the quality of the entries. And obviously the good agencies didn&#8217;t both to enter&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Pearson</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22285</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@indiancurry

I believe (and I could be wrong) that agencies had to enter the awards, so perhaps Mitchell did not apply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@indiancurry</p>
<p>I believe (and I could be wrong) that agencies had to enter the awards, so perhaps Mitchell did not apply?</p>
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		<title>By: indiancurry</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22284</link>
		<dc:creator>indiancurry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised Mitchell did not get a mention in the Media Agency. Is it to do with your recent interview on Harold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised Mitchell did not get a mention in the Media Agency. Is it to do with your recent interview on Harold?</p>
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		<title>By: mumbrella</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22233</link>
		<dc:creator>mumbrella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beauty of the awards, Scribe, is that the readers&#039; votes will decide.

Cheers,

Tim - Mumbrella</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beauty of the awards, Scribe, is that the readers&#8217; votes will decide.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tim &#8211; Mumbrella</p>
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		<title>By: Scribe</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22227</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PHD? Hmmm. C&#039;mon Tim I know you and Mark Holden are good mates, but I dont think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PHD? Hmmm. C&#8217;mon Tim I know you and Mark Holden are good mates, but I dont think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Grief</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22209</link>
		<dc:creator>Grief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely they were big enough to stand up to He Who Must Not be Named</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely they were big enough to stand up to He Who Must Not be Named</p>
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		<title>By: junior</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/agency-of-the-year-shortlists-revealed-13114#comment-22199</link>
		<dc:creator>junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congrats to all that got shortlisted, nice mix of big and small, looking forward to reading their submissions and placing my vote</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congrats to all that got shortlisted, nice mix of big and small, looking forward to reading their submissions and placing my vote</p>
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