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	<title>Comments on: Guest post: Can you trust a PR when they promise an exclusive?</title>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-13389</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in general Australian media is way too obsessed with &#039;exclusives&#039;. It strangles open and interesting coverage and it&#039;s just rather childish. 

I work both in journalism and PR and the general lack of trust on both sides is what leads to these tricky situations. And in defence of PR, very very often we have set up important extracts or interviews, often forced to have them as exclusives because of the publication, only to have them bail on it at the last minute. So the frustration goes both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in general Australian media is way too obsessed with &#8216;exclusives&#8217;. It strangles open and interesting coverage and it&#8217;s just rather childish. </p>
<p>I work both in journalism and PR and the general lack of trust on both sides is what leads to these tricky situations. And in defence of PR, very very often we have set up important extracts or interviews, often forced to have them as exclusives because of the publication, only to have them bail on it at the last minute. So the frustration goes both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Jörn</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-13316</link>
		<dc:creator>Jörn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIMI - i empathize with the predicament this may have left you with in terms of your client.  But anger?  I&#039;m not even sure a staff writer gets &#039;angry&#039; when his/her story gets spiked due to a lack of space.  There are only so many pages in a publication - always far less than news and stories in the world.  Not sucking eggs here - but it&#039;s the Editor&#039;s duty to constantly evaluate which stories serve the best to keep the reader informed/entertained.

I figure if you&#039;re not dealing with the likes of MJ passing away unexpectedly - no story&#039;s ever a guarantee.  Just think how &#039;angry&#039; Farrah Fawcett must have been with her lack of coverage compared to the prince of pop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIMI &#8211; i empathize with the predicament this may have left you with in terms of your client.  But anger?  I&#8217;m not even sure a staff writer gets &#8216;angry&#8217; when his/her story gets spiked due to a lack of space.  There are only so many pages in a publication &#8211; always far less than news and stories in the world.  Not sucking eggs here &#8211; but it&#8217;s the Editor&#8217;s duty to constantly evaluate which stories serve the best to keep the reader informed/entertained.</p>
<p>I figure if you&#8217;re not dealing with the likes of MJ passing away unexpectedly &#8211; no story&#8217;s ever a guarantee.  Just think how &#8216;angry&#8217; Farrah Fawcett must have been with her lack of coverage compared to the prince of pop.</p>
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		<title>By: MIMI</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-13315</link>
		<dc:creator>MIMI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a PR who has offered many exclusive deals on stories I have been let down by journalists many times. Most recently with a major glossy mag who we did an &quot;exclusive&#039; deal with, only to have them not run the story due to &quot;lack of space&quot;.  We were gutted to say the least having spent weeks with multiple interviews, allowing access to the story that other journos just did not have and then we got nothing... not even a teeny tiny piece.. just a breezy email saying &quot;Oh yes, we ran out of space so the editor bumped it&quot;.  Clients, my team and I all devastated and really angry- try explaining to a client that a magazine &quot;runs out of space&quot; for their exclusive, heavily negotiated story. So yes as a PR I am cautious of exclusives but categorically keep them exclusive when I offer them despite the same courtesy not being extended to actually run the stories by the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a PR who has offered many exclusive deals on stories I have been let down by journalists many times. Most recently with a major glossy mag who we did an &#8220;exclusive&#8217; deal with, only to have them not run the story due to &#8220;lack of space&#8221;.  We were gutted to say the least having spent weeks with multiple interviews, allowing access to the story that other journos just did not have and then we got nothing&#8230; not even a teeny tiny piece.. just a breezy email saying &#8220;Oh yes, we ran out of space so the editor bumped it&#8221;.  Clients, my team and I all devastated and really angry- try explaining to a client that a magazine &#8220;runs out of space&#8221; for their exclusive, heavily negotiated story. So yes as a PR I am cautious of exclusives but categorically keep them exclusive when I offer them despite the same courtesy not being extended to actually run the stories by the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Bruem</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12779</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Bruem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Lotta that the &quot;us and them&quot; mentality is ridiculous.   PR has always been a logical career option for journos and the reality is we are all communciations professionals.   As we can see from some of the posts here, some people even go back and forth between the two during the course of their careers. It&#039;s about time the handful of journos who still view PR people as being nothing more than &quot;evil gatekeepers&quot; wisened up.  Good on you Jen for kicking off a sensible discussion about what&#039;s right and wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Lotta that the &#8220;us and them&#8221; mentality is ridiculous.   PR has always been a logical career option for journos and the reality is we are all communciations professionals.   As we can see from some of the posts here, some people even go back and forth between the two during the course of their careers. It&#8217;s about time the handful of journos who still view PR people as being nothing more than &#8220;evil gatekeepers&#8221; wisened up.  Good on you Jen for kicking off a sensible discussion about what&#8217;s right and wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: ECW</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12553</link>
		<dc:creator>ECW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair points, but I think Max Brenner is the winner. He still gets a run with a great pic! I now know who this guy is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair points, but I think Max Brenner is the winner. He still gets a run with a great pic! I now know who this guy is.</p>
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		<title>By: Some journo love &#124; podpublicity.com.au</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12484</link>
		<dc:creator>Some journo love &#124; podpublicity.com.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Shortly and sweetly, the story was that PR company Magnum had promised Dynamic Business Magazine an exclusive piece on their client Max Brenner (the baldy chocolate man who does indeed make the best hot chocolate in the infinite universe). The exclusive was conditional, i.e. the story could be featured in other publications, but not  in business publications. Some how, through some miscommunication, the piece did end up in the business section of the Age. As you can imagine, the people at Dynamic Business weren&#8217;t happy, so pulled the story from the cover. Fair enough&#8230;it just seemed like an unfortunate mistake. You can read the painful drawn out version here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Shortly and sweetly, the story was that PR company Magnum had promised Dynamic Business Magazine an exclusive piece on their client Max Brenner (the baldy chocolate man who does indeed make the best hot chocolate in the infinite universe). The exclusive was conditional, i.e. the story could be featured in other publications, but not  in business publications. Some how, through some miscommunication, the piece did end up in the business section of the Age. As you can imagine, the people at Dynamic Business weren&#8217;t happy, so pulled the story from the cover. Fair enough&#8230;it just seemed like an unfortunate mistake. You can read the painful drawn out version here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jörn</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12483</link>
		<dc:creator>Jörn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of opinion here.  My thought, having worked on both sides, is that when anyone mentions &#039;exclusive&#039; - run!  Agreements like this should only be entered into between two people who have a working relationship and understand what each means when discussing &#039;exclusive&#039;.

The fact that some have admitted to getting it wrong earlier in their career - is of concern.  Nobody early in their career should be given the opportunity to negotiate anything as controversial as an &#039;exclusive&#039;.

Happy weekend everyone!  My prediction for it - the fastest on the day will win on Sunday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of opinion here.  My thought, having worked on both sides, is that when anyone mentions &#8216;exclusive&#8217; &#8211; run!  Agreements like this should only be entered into between two people who have a working relationship and understand what each means when discussing &#8216;exclusive&#8217;.</p>
<p>The fact that some have admitted to getting it wrong earlier in their career &#8211; is of concern.  Nobody early in their career should be given the opportunity to negotiate anything as controversial as an &#8216;exclusive&#8217;.</p>
<p>Happy weekend everyone!  My prediction for it &#8211; the fastest on the day will win on Sunday!</p>
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		<title>By: lloyd</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12477</link>
		<dc:creator>lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jen Bishop, editor, Dynamic Business</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12470</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Bishop, editor, Dynamic Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think it&#039;s because Twitter&#039;s not working too well today?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think it&#8217;s because Twitter&#8217;s not working too well today?!</p>
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		<title>By: lloyd</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12469</link>
		<dc:creator>lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have a double choc chip with one of those flakes stuck in it.  And hundreds and thousands too.  Will this friday ever end?.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have a double choc chip with one of those flakes stuck in it.  And hundreds and thousands too.  Will this friday ever end?&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday-itis</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12464</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday-itis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very long stream of conciousness going on in this thread ....
icecream anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very long stream of conciousness going on in this thread &#8230;.<br />
icecream anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Bishop, editor, Dynamic Business</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12419</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Bishop, editor, Dynamic Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My pleasure. When I saw you had a balanced view on both sides of the argument I realised you weren&#039;t being antagonstic for the sake of it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pleasure. When I saw you had a balanced view on both sides of the argument I realised you weren&#8217;t being antagonstic for the sake of it <img src='http://mumbrella.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sir G</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12410</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen,

Thanks.

It seemed a reasonable question to ask under the circumstances. The intent of it wasn&#039;t to be antagonistic but in posing in some questions in direct way it&#039;s hard to avoid sounding that way.

I could have buried it in some sneaky obsequious comment along the lines of &quot;very serious allegation - I&#039;m sure Jen can defend the magazines editorial stance!&quot; 
and then invited you to do so. But that seemed dishonest.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen,</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>It seemed a reasonable question to ask under the circumstances. The intent of it wasn&#8217;t to be antagonistic but in posing in some questions in direct way it&#8217;s hard to avoid sounding that way.</p>
<p>I could have buried it in some sneaky obsequious comment along the lines of &#8220;very serious allegation &#8211; I&#8217;m sure Jen can defend the magazines editorial stance!&#8221;<br />
and then invited you to do so. But that seemed dishonest.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Bishop, editor, Dynamic Business</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/can-you-trust-a-pr-when-they-promise-an-exclusive-8279#comment-12407</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Bishop, editor, Dynamic Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertorials are a matter for our sales team rather than me, and off the top of my head there have only been two in DB in the past 12 months which were strapped &#039;Advertorial&#039; or &#039;Special Report&#039;. We don&#039;t recommend our advertisers run advertorials but, if they want to, we insist they are clearly strapped.

As I stated in #45, editorial, which is different, is commissioned by the editorial team on its merits. We do have byliner guidelines for editorial contributors which state, among other things: &quot;All byliners are subject to editing to style and final versions are not made available for client/PR company approval. Byliners should read as unbiased expert commentary on the relevant topic and not as advertorial for the company. The company may be mentioned once or twice in passing, but there should be no obvious product endorsement.&quot;

Sir G: I hope this addresses your, albeit indirect, suggestion that we have something to hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertorials are a matter for our sales team rather than me, and off the top of my head there have only been two in DB in the past 12 months which were strapped &#8216;Advertorial&#8217; or &#8216;Special Report&#8217;. We don&#8217;t recommend our advertisers run advertorials but, if they want to, we insist they are clearly strapped.</p>
<p>As I stated in #45, editorial, which is different, is commissioned by the editorial team on its merits. We do have byliner guidelines for editorial contributors which state, among other things: &#8220;All byliners are subject to editing to style and final versions are not made available for client/PR company approval. Byliners should read as unbiased expert commentary on the relevant topic and not as advertorial for the company. The company may be mentioned once or twice in passing, but there should be no obvious product endorsement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sir G: I hope this addresses your, albeit indirect, suggestion that we have something to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you *are* already discussing them here at #45.

You&#039;re also quite happy to use this forum to name and take another business to task over it&#039;s conduct, but you&#039;re not too keen to have that scrutiny publicly bought to bear on yours.

You are also happy to claim slander is taking place yet when given an opportunity to publicly address that, you don&#039;t. Thought-provoking at the very least.

I would also observe that not being open about your advertorial and disclosure policy, here, does not bode well for what that might actually be. i.e. it doesn&#039;t sound like you&#039;re disclosing it in the mag itself. If you were, it would be a simple matter to address my question here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you *are* already discussing them here at #45.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also quite happy to use this forum to name and take another business to task over it&#8217;s conduct, but you&#8217;re not too keen to have that scrutiny publicly bought to bear on yours.</p>
<p>You are also happy to claim slander is taking place yet when given an opportunity to publicly address that, you don&#8217;t. Thought-provoking at the very least.</p>
<p>I would also observe that not being open about your advertorial and disclosure policy, here, does not bode well for what that might actually be. i.e. it doesn&#8217;t sound like you&#8217;re disclosing it in the mag itself. If you were, it would be a simple matter to address my question here.</p>
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