Comments on: Duo quit Social Media Club committee to launch Digital Citizens

By: Des Walsh

Des Walsh — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:46:08 +0000

I don’t live in Sydney anymore and I have been to only one SMCSYD event, but there was so much interaction that night that it must have been an exception to the rule. And it was just warming up when I had regretfully to leave, jus at the end of the formal presentations. Was anybody else there, when David Meerman Scott was being heckled and took it in such good part? Or did I imagine the whole thing?

Anyway, with all my partisan bias for, personal engagement in and lack of any claim to objectivity about Social Media Club, I think it’s great that so many people in my old home town are so interested in the subject and so keen to get together, in whatever group takes their various fancies.

And I dips me lid to the people who have made SMCSYD a happening thing, albeit not happening just as everyone would wish.

And if anyone is looking for a mellower zone for discussing social media, get yourselves up here to the Gold Coast or to Brissie some time for one of our gatherings.

By: Gavin

Gavin — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:36:00 +0000

“Free Speech”
I’m confused. As a part of the organisation, I’m interested in how I or my colleagues are not open or inclusive? Feel free to contact me or my colleagues, my address is here and my twitter profile is pretty obvious.
As for ‘membership’ I’m not sure what that means. We don’t have ‘members’ per se. If you use ‘Social Media’ for whatever purpose, you are welcome to get involved, attend, participate. In may ways you already are.
At the event we had an open mic policy. I’d love to know if you were there, and if you got involved in the conversation. Unfortunately as you haven’t told us who you are, I can’t possibly guess
Cheers!

By: Digital Citizens told: Freedom of tweet? You never had it - mUmBRELLA

Digital Citizens told: Freedom of tweet? You never had it - mUmBRELLA — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:04:26 +0000

[...] of client or business conflict never had the right in the first place, last night’s first meeting of Digital Citizens was [...]

By: Free speech

Free speech — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:54:50 +0000

Intriguing that the group is touted as being an open and inclusive forum. Following all of its founding members on twitter I wouldn’t be so quick to attribute that description to them. I would not be surprised that the Social Media Women will surpassed them in attracting membership from outside the ‘fold’. The comparisons will be made, the attempt at suggesting a conflict will also happen at the end of the day participation is the only metric I’ll engage in measuring its success.

By: Social Media Women: ‘Self proclaimed media gurus’ not welcome - mUmBRELLA

Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:54:43 +0000

[...] Point Hotel in McMahons Point – takes place on the same night as the inaugural meeting of Digital Citizens, which was set up by former members of Social Media Club Sydney organising committee including [...]

By: Matt Moore

Matt Moore — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:55:11 +0000

Ummm – I’m looking forward to events by different groups with different focuses. As much as I had issues with some of the format choices for SYDSMC, I think the organizers worked hard to put on a decent events & I hope they do more cool stuff in 2010. And it’s not just these guys – Ignite, TEDx, Interesting South, various Camps (barcamps, startup camps, social innovation camps). A whole bunch of great stuff has happened in Sydney over the last couple of years. We are spoilt for choice.

So either:
- find something that you think is cool & support it,
- or start your own cool thing,
- or shut the **** up. No one likes a whinger.

For the record: social media & marketing are independent domains that overlap. The point of crossover is pretty interesting but isn’t the whole story for either.

God, that was all very reasonable & grown-up wasn’t it? I feel the overwhelming urge to start a fight with someone. In the nude.

By: Scott Rhodie

Scott Rhodie — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:45:59 +0000

Hi Jay,

I’m intrigued by your alleged belief we are ‘pretenders’ considering the amount of experience between the five of us.

None of us are being egged on by anyone instead we all have a strong belief in Digital Citizens and the need for more openness and community within the industry.

As for being able to pull it off. Come along on the night and find out for yourself – not many tickets left I’m afraid.

Cheers,
Scott

By: Jay Preston

Jay Preston — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:42:51 +0000

Seems to me a couple of pretenders have decided to step up and see if they can do more than swan around taking credit for other people’s efforts. Word is they’re being egged on by a few bitter souls with personal agendas. This is so typical of the local marketing community. Will be interesting to see if they can pull it off or whether they’ll crumble at the first barbs of criticism

By: Cathie

Cathie — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:21:10 +0000

So committed are we to responding to feedback that we’ve updated the blurb…
Sacrificing the simple joy of alliteration for the sake of not sounding quite so much like douchebags, we’re now “agency neutral”
Alternative suggestions can be submitted here: http://digital-citizens.org (careful now..)

I’d also like to reiterate that Digital Citizens isn’t in any way an attempt to replace SMC Sydney – it’s a different focus and a broader remit. We’re trying to create a space for debate, and this comment thread clearly demonstrates that there is demand for such a forum.

By: Gavin Costello

Gavin Costello — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:24:26 +0000

Kristen
“Isn’t Media a form of Marketing?” No. It’s not. A Medium (pl media) is a method of helping to deliver messages. Marketing is what some of those messages look like. Other messages include News, sport, entertainment etc
Social Media is IMHO a more social or collaborative use, e.g. Knowledge sharing, of the media which exist. Be that TV, Radio, Internet or whatever.
The Internet is, despite whatever a News Limited Exec might tell you, the best Medium we know (aside from the pub) for social interaction.
Marketing is part of it. But, in my view, a small part which has been allowed to become seen as the only part.
Gavin

By: Mal Damkar

Mal Damkar — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:23:36 +0000

Kristen

um. When people stop wearing clothes or accessories with brand names showing. Or when they stop refering to their car by manufacturer. Then yes people won’t want to be friends with a brand. But most people do and thus do want to be friends.

By: LIAM

LIAM — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:13:52 +0000

Simon

That was gold.

By: Kristen

Kristen — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:33:19 +0000

Social Media, splits to not focus on marketing? OMG, what’s the point of calling it social media? Isn’t media a form of marketing?

Social Media is a crock, anyone who claims to be an expert should be treated with the same credibility as a snake oil salesman. An industry that is barely 2 years old, with dubious beginnings should really take a long hard look at these so called “experts”.

Putting ads and brands in a social space is stupid, brands aren’t your friends. I don’t really give a toss about what a brand has to say to me in 140 characters or less, brands shouldn’t have friends. I don’t care more about the brand more if the have a cool page on Facebook.

By: Banza

Banza — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:27:44 +0000

Is this how it felt for Friends Reunited when Facebook opened shop?

By: Larry

Larry — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:22:22 +0000

sounds important