Comments on: Fairfax and content theft http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938 Everything under Australia’s media and marketing umbrella Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dave http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45947 Dave Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:02:03 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45947 It's unfortunate that every commercial news site does it and has done for quite a while. As is patently obvious, videos could just be embedded. It might be able to be argued though that there are examples where media outlets 'need' to rip a YouTube (or other) video before it's taken down... I, of course, would not argue that ;) It’s unfortunate that every commercial news site does it and has done for quite a while. As is patently obvious, videos could just be embedded.

It might be able to be argued though that there are examples where media outlets ‘need’ to rip a YouTube (or other) video before it’s taken down…

I, of course, would not argue that ;)

]]> By: Dan Lewis http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45921 Dan Lewis Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:32:48 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45921 Whereas the Youtube player Just Works, the video players on a number of news websites, frankly suck. Whereas the Youtube player Just Works, the video players on a number of news websites, frankly suck.

]]> By: anon1 http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45881 anon1 Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:50:28 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45881 @Ben thanks for that link. Here's one for Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/akdhnalfijbhlifpobhanbopfbdlbjfd?hl=en @Ben thanks for that link.

Here’s one for Chrome:

https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/akdhnalfijbhlifpobhanbopfbdlbjfd?hl=en

]]> By: Original Nutter http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45864 Original Nutter Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:36:42 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45864 Original quality content. I would pay for that!! Original quality content.

I would pay for that!!

]]> By: Josh rogan http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45862 Josh rogan Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:24:57 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45862 You dipstick foobar. The smh has a deal with mashable. You dipstick foobar. The smh has a deal with mashable.

]]> By: Anonymous http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45855 Anonymous Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:51:36 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45855 Nice work Tim. And nice reply Fairfax. They're just trying to work it out- and this article ensures they'll be fair. Capitalism and social media make for uncomfortable bed fellows. Nice work Tim. And nice reply Fairfax. They’re just trying to work it out- and this article ensures they’ll be fair.

Capitalism and social media make for uncomfortable bed fellows.

]]> By: marcf http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45842 marcf Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:13:10 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45842 Mumbrella = 1 Fairfax = 0 Mumbrella = 1
Fairfax = 0

]]> By: Andrew F http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45836 Andrew F Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:49:05 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45836 They've been doing this for ages. I know someone who wrote a column for them (a one off) and they took an old youtube video and put it up with their watermark next to the column. They paid for the column but not for the video. Now they didn't care as they weren't making any money on youtube from, it but Fairfax didn't ask. Thanks for the greasemonkey script. I've already got their ads blocked it will be great to stop the videos as well. They’ve been doing this for ages. I know someone who wrote a column for them (a one off) and they took an old youtube video and put it up with their watermark next to the column. They paid for the column but not for the video. Now they didn’t care as they weren’t making any money on youtube from, it but Fairfax didn’t ask. Thanks for the greasemonkey script. I’ve already got their ads blocked it will be great to stop the videos as well.

]]> By: OtherAndrew http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45831 OtherAndrew Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:27:00 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45831 HOLY CRAP! I was thinking 'Kudos for the response' but then I just saw this: http://media.smh.com.au/lifestyle/behind-the-lens/photographic-freak-of-nature-1644055.html What they've done is create a front page story (in the featured photo box on top left) purely to drive traffic to what looks essentially like a Canon mini-site (it's their SMH vid page, but it's plastered with Canon advertising across every available space). I've been a big fan of SMH for a long time and have stuck with them through pre-roll ads and other sins, but that is nearing unforgivable. Talk about selling out your journalistic integrity - a homepage 'story' that should actually be a banner ad. Shameful. HOLY CRAP!

I was thinking ‘Kudos for the response’ but then I just saw this:

http://media.smh.com.au/lifest.....44055.html

What they’ve done is create a front page story (in the featured photo box on top left) purely to drive traffic to what looks essentially like a Canon mini-site (it’s their SMH vid page, but it’s plastered with Canon advertising across every available space).

I’ve been a big fan of SMH for a long time and have stuck with them through pre-roll ads and other sins, but that is nearing unforgivable. Talk about selling out your journalistic integrity – a homepage ‘story’ that should actually be a banner ad. Shameful.

]]> By: Adam Paull http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45830 Adam Paull Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:23:39 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45830 Ben (Comment 16) - you're a lifesaver... works a treat. Ben (Comment 16) – you’re a lifesaver… works a treat.

]]> By: Ben http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45828 Ben Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:06:36 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45828 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyEGgbrJBw this is the site I mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyEGgbrJBw

this is the site I mean

]]> By: Ben http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45826 Ben Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:05:47 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45826 "Thanks again for raising these issues, which I’m happy to say, are now working its way towards a resolution that provides a fair deal for all." By "fair deal" I assume he really means 'advertising revenue'. Because starting videos uninitiated isn't really a fair deal to a user who goes to a page to read an articles text. The SMH and The Age pages are starting to look like the website Homer Simpson builds with all the animated gifs and annoying sounds. Although what Fairfax is doing is probably even more overstated. “Thanks again for raising these issues, which I’m happy to say, are now working its way towards a resolution that provides a fair deal for all.”

By “fair deal” I assume he really means ‘advertising revenue’. Because starting videos uninitiated isn’t really a fair deal to a user who goes to a page to read an articles text.

The SMH and The Age pages are starting to look like the website Homer Simpson builds with all the animated gifs and annoying sounds. Although what Fairfax is doing is probably even more overstated.

]]> By: Foobar http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45825 Foobar Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:56:59 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45825 Give SMH a break, they "source" so much content from other sites these days, "mistakes" like this are bound to happen! I'm curious to know what Fairfax's relationship is with Mashable.com - I'm seeing more and more articles appearing in the IT section sourced directly from Mashable (word for word, including pictures - e.g. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/iphone/ios-4-has-arrived-20100622-ytu4.html). Mashable can't be happy with the lose of impressions/revenue. Give SMH a break, they “source” so much content from other sites these days, “mistakes” like this are bound to happen!

I’m curious to know what Fairfax’s relationship is with Mashable.com – I’m seeing more and more articles appearing in the IT section sourced directly from Mashable (word for word, including pictures – e.g. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-.....-ytu4.html). Mashable can’t be happy with the lose of impressions/revenue.

]]> By: Ben http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45822 Ben Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:12:51 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45822 the internet - a place with no rules the internet – a place with no rules

]]> By: Adam http://mumbrella.com.au/fairfax-and-content-theft-28938#comment-45813 Adam Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:31:14 +0000 http://mumbrella.com.au/?p=28938#comment-45813 @James C I am with you there James. Improving user experience is about making lots of little things better. One little thing that really p1sses me off with SMH is when it says "your video will start in x seconds" and it gives me the option to stop the video. - Here is a tip Fairfax: dont start it in the first place please! I can understand exactly what you mean Tim. If Fairfax do not have an agreement with the other party then waterparking the content is pretty bl00dy cheaky if you ask me!! @James C

I am with you there James. Improving user experience is about making lots of little things better. One little thing that really p1sses me off with SMH is when it says “your video will start in x seconds” and it gives me the option to stop the video.

- Here is a tip Fairfax: dont start it in the first place please!

I can understand exactly what you mean Tim. If Fairfax do not have an agreement with the other party then waterparking the content is pretty bl00dy cheaky if you ask me!!

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