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	<title>Comments on: Geekdom becomes latest Photon firm to restructure</title>
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		<title>By: mumbrella</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-25277</link>
		<dc:creator>mumbrella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For legal reasons, we&#039;re going to have to close comments on this post.

For consumers trying to reach others in the same situation, I suggest following the above link to the Facebook group.

Cheers,

Tim - Mumbrella</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For legal reasons, we&#8217;re going to have to close comments on this post.</p>
<p>For consumers trying to reach others in the same situation, I suggest following the above link to the Facebook group.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tim &#8211; Mumbrella</p>
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		<title>By: msn</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-25272</link>
		<dc:creator>msn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy is a very intelligent &quot;can do&quot; man with big dreams and loads of energy. Others may think he&#039;s a (&lt;em&gt;edited for legal reasons&lt;/em&gt;)  but I&#039;m sure he thought GV was a good product. Bet Tim Hughes is mighty cross - might even make Troy sell his car... house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy is a very intelligent &#8220;can do&#8221; man with big dreams and loads of energy. Others may think he&#8217;s a (<em>edited for legal reasons</em>)  but I&#8217;m sure he thought GV was a good product. Bet Tim Hughes is mighty cross &#8211; might even make Troy sell his car&#8230; house?</p>
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		<title>By: Ex GV</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-25162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex GV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Don&#039;t believe the bull  you must have worked in a bloody different GV office to me.. (edited for legal reasons)

The only good thing they did was let me go so i didn&#039;t have to go down with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Don&#8217;t believe the bull  you must have worked in a bloody different GV office to me.. (edited for legal reasons)</p>
<p>The only good thing they did was let me go so i didn&#8217;t have to go down with them.</p>
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		<title>By: BSmeter</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-25152</link>
		<dc:creator>BSmeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been involved with GV/Geekdom as a student and also friends of previous and current owners.     Once owned by the corporate Photon they seem to have totally fallen apart and not understood the skill required to deliver.

(&lt;em&gt;Edited for legal reasons&lt;/em&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been involved with GV/Geekdom as a student and also friends of previous and current owners.     Once owned by the corporate Photon they seem to have totally fallen apart and not understood the skill required to deliver.</p>
<p>(<em>Edited for legal reasons</em>).</p>
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		<title>By: sickofthelies!!</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-25147</link>
		<dc:creator>sickofthelies!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(&lt;em&gt;Edited for legal reasons&lt;/em&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(<em>Edited for legal reasons</em>)</p>
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		<title>By: Don't believe the bull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don't believe the bull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has been closely associated with GV both inside and out I can say they tried to deal with a lot of false promises made by (&lt;em&gt;edited for legal reasons&lt;/em&gt;)

Troy tried to recover and do the right thing by his customers and the right thing legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has been closely associated with GV both inside and out I can say they tried to deal with a lot of false promises made by (<em>edited for legal reasons</em>)</p>
<p>Troy tried to recover and do the right thing by his customers and the right thing legally.</p>
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		<title>By: sickofthelies!!</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-24973</link>
		<dc:creator>sickofthelies!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another unhappy GV student, I have also been waiting a number of months for my refund, after sending in my cancellation letter there has been NO communication from GV, not surprising really. The ethics of the &#039;powers to be&#039; are non-existent!!! Stop hiding behind false lies, PR companies, come clean, have respect for your disgruntled customers and for yourselves for that matter. Do the right thing!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another unhappy GV student, I have also been waiting a number of months for my refund, after sending in my cancellation letter there has been NO communication from GV, not surprising really. The ethics of the &#8216;powers to be&#8217; are non-existent!!! Stop hiding behind false lies, PR companies, come clean, have respect for your disgruntled customers and for yourselves for that matter. Do the right thing!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Emmerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Emmerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The numbers regarding redundancies don&#039;t stack up. At its height, Geekdom had 80 staff. About 20 (roughly) were made redundant in October and another 20 (roughly) were transferred with the sale of Geekversity. While this should leave 40 in the office, I have been told there are only 20 remaining.

Sadly, my attempts to clarify this and a few other questions have gone awry. Very few companies include contact numbers on press releases and then don&#039;t return calls, but Photon chairman Tim Hughes and chief executive Matthew Bailey currently are in their own class. They have also instructed all staff to send media inquiries - particularly those from The Advertiser - through a subsidiary, City PR, where no comment is made by its director, Tim Allerton. Strangely enough, this lack of communication only started when I wrote an article about Geekdom and its problems.

From a professional perspective, I am more inclined to give credit to companies whose senior officers are able to front the media. Those that hide tend to have something to hide.

Russell Emmerson, The Advertiser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The numbers regarding redundancies don&#8217;t stack up. At its height, Geekdom had 80 staff. About 20 (roughly) were made redundant in October and another 20 (roughly) were transferred with the sale of Geekversity. While this should leave 40 in the office, I have been told there are only 20 remaining.</p>
<p>Sadly, my attempts to clarify this and a few other questions have gone awry. Very few companies include contact numbers on press releases and then don&#8217;t return calls, but Photon chairman Tim Hughes and chief executive Matthew Bailey currently are in their own class. They have also instructed all staff to send media inquiries &#8211; particularly those from The Advertiser &#8211; through a subsidiary, City PR, where no comment is made by its director, Tim Allerton. Strangely enough, this lack of communication only started when I wrote an article about Geekdom and its problems.</p>
<p>From a professional perspective, I am more inclined to give credit to companies whose senior officers are able to front the media. Those that hide tend to have something to hide.</p>
<p>Russell Emmerson, The Advertiser</p>
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		<title>By: GV Employee</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-24530</link>
		<dc:creator>GV Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked within Geekversity throughout the entire start up and failure of this project. (&lt;em&gt;Edited for legal reasons&lt;/em&gt;). Not only did he fail to deliver a product to the consumer market that was in any way proven but he also (&lt;em&gt;edited for legal reasons&lt;/em&gt;). Geekversity will at best be sold but I would be surprised who would take on the mess to be honest. I can only hope that most of the individuals who made this &quot;investment&quot; can get something in return aside from the false promises! Tim, (&lt;em&gt;edited for legal reasons&lt;/em&gt;) Dont be fooled! Stay away from any GV or Geekdom products ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked within Geekversity throughout the entire start up and failure of this project. (<em>Edited for legal reasons</em>). Not only did he fail to deliver a product to the consumer market that was in any way proven but he also (<em>edited for legal reasons</em>). Geekversity will at best be sold but I would be surprised who would take on the mess to be honest. I can only hope that most of the individuals who made this &#8220;investment&#8221; can get something in return aside from the false promises! Tim, (<em>edited for legal reasons</em>) Dont be fooled! Stay away from any GV or Geekdom products <img src='http://mumbrella.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: F</title>
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		<dc:creator>F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between myself, boyfriend, his brother inlaw and a business partner (edited for legal reasons), we too have tried everything to get at least some funds back and nothing.  We are not giving up though.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between myself, boyfriend, his brother inlaw and a business partner (edited for legal reasons), we too have tried everything to get at least some funds back and nothing.  We are not giving up though&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: GVwastedmytime</title>
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		<dc:creator>GVwastedmytime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geekversity have not been very honest with us students.  After announcing the changes in the program, an offer of a refund was also announced. When too many people started asking for a refund, they reneged and said it was no longer an option.
I have been waiting 6 months for my refund and have not received my revenue from traffic trading.. even though I had paid my fees. After promises of profits, they have not only put me in debt, but wasted my valuable time.  If anyone is considering a refund or just can&#039;t get through to them about your own future with them, i suggest lodging a complaint with the Office of Fair Trading. 
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/About_us/Online_services/Lodge_a_complaint.html?DCSext.ref=Homepagecomplaintclick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geekversity have not been very honest with us students.  After announcing the changes in the program, an offer of a refund was also announced. When too many people started asking for a refund, they reneged and said it was no longer an option.<br />
I have been waiting 6 months for my refund and have not received my revenue from traffic trading.. even though I had paid my fees. After promises of profits, they have not only put me in debt, but wasted my valuable time.  If anyone is considering a refund or just can&#8217;t get through to them about your own future with them, i suggest lodging a complaint with the Office of Fair Trading.<br />
<a href="http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/About_us/Online_services/Lodge_a_complaint.html?DCSext.ref=Homepagecomplaintclick" rel="nofollow">http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.....laintclick</a></p>
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		<title>By: nothappyjan</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-24372</link>
		<dc:creator>nothappyjan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also an ex-student of Geekversity who has been asking for a refund for more than 2 months now ... I&#039;ve also submitted a claim through the CTTT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also an ex-student of Geekversity who has been asking for a refund for more than 2 months now &#8230; I&#8217;ve also submitted a claim through the CTTT</p>
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		<title>By: veryunhappy</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-24326</link>
		<dc:creator>veryunhappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20 or more student have now submitted a claim NSW office of fair trading and more coming in daily.
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/About_us/Online_services/Lodge_a_complaint.html?DCSext.ref=Homepagecomplaintclick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20 or more student have now submitted a claim NSW office of fair trading and more coming in daily.<br />
<a href="http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/About_us/Online_services/Lodge_a_complaint.html?DCSext.ref=Homepagecomplaintclick" rel="nofollow">http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.....laintclick</a></p>
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		<title>By: unhappy2</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-24303</link>
		<dc:creator>unhappy2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many students have submitted claims to Office of Fair Trading this week in an attempt to recover their money. Geekversity announced they have moved to a new location on Friday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many students have submitted claims to Office of Fair Trading this week in an attempt to recover their money. Geekversity announced they have moved to a new location on Friday.</p>
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		<title>By: unhappy</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/geekdom-becomes-latest-photon-firm-to-restructure-14004#comment-24229</link>
		<dc:creator>unhappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was a customer and having been burnt by Troy and his geeks decided to investigate their business. I hear they are facing millions of dollars in claims from people like me and all but 20 staff have / are going to be made redundant.

Not sure he is telling the whole story to you or anyone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was a customer and having been burnt by Troy and his geeks decided to investigate their business. I hear they are facing millions of dollars in claims from people like me and all but 20 staff have / are going to be made redundant.</p>
<p>Not sure he is telling the whole story to you or anyone&#8230;</p>
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