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	<title>Comments on: Laurel&#8217;s war on social media agencies</title>
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		<title>By: Legosity</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20584</link>
		<dc:creator>Legosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the award for the smartest thing I&#039;ve read today with thanks to @marcus &amp; James Duthie - http://onlinemarketingbanter.c.....-industry/

&quot;if you have to criticise a campaign, why not make it constructive? Use your ‘expertise’ to open a real discussion about how it could have been improved. Share your knowledge in a manner that is constructive rather than destructive&quot;. 

I doubt that tommorow&#039;s masters of this space - yet to be unearthed - wont read any of this banter. They&#039;ll be too busy getting on with getting on to partake in such conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the award for the smartest thing I&#8217;ve read today with thanks to @marcus &amp; James Duthie &#8211; <a href="http://onlinemarketingbanter.c.....-industry/" rel="nofollow">http://onlinemarketingbanter.c&#8230;..-industry/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;if you have to criticise a campaign, why not make it constructive? Use your ‘expertise’ to open a real discussion about how it could have been improved. Share your knowledge in a manner that is constructive rather than destructive&#8221;. </p>
<p>I doubt that tommorow&#8217;s masters of this space &#8211; yet to be unearthed &#8211; wont read any of this banter. They&#8217;ll be too busy getting on with getting on to partake in such conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: i'm interested too</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20582</link>
		<dc:creator>i'm interested too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too would like to see any case studies of actual work done. I can&#039;t find anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too would like to see any case studies of actual work done. I can&#8217;t find anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20574</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/the-problem-with-the-australian-social-media-industry/

you&#039;ll all eat yourselves.</description>
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<p>you&#8217;ll all eat yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video hit the nail on the head!

When happens when a interruption style marketing over-saturates places people go to escape it? People move elsewhere... 

When Twitter gets spammed full of marketing messages, we&#039;ll all start to ignore it...

Although I&#039;m kicking myself that I didn&#039;t get a lift from Wolfy when the train broke down in North Sydney last week - instead walked the harbour bridge in sweltering heat !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video hit the nail on the head!</p>
<p>When happens when a interruption style marketing over-saturates places people go to escape it? People move elsewhere&#8230; </p>
<p>When Twitter gets spammed full of marketing messages, we&#8217;ll all start to ignore it&#8230;</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m kicking myself that I didn&#8217;t get a lift from Wolfy when the train broke down in North Sydney last week &#8211; instead walked the harbour bridge in sweltering heat !</p>
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		<title>By: Legosity</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20450</link>
		<dc:creator>Legosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mumbrella - I also had a look at the facebook effort. Pretty much a community right there. Didn&#039;t even take 2 minutes of research to see that

@Laurel - you must admit this is a bit of an oversight on your part

@Gary Hayes - your comment about &#039;out of context reporting&#039; is ironic, given that the Laurel Post appears to have left out some fairly big points and seems to include some inaccurate ones. The video may be satirical, but the post is worded in an authoritative tone, implying that the research has been done, yet its appears in some cases this may not be so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mumbrella &#8211; I also had a look at the facebook effort. Pretty much a community right there. Didn&#8217;t even take 2 minutes of research to see that</p>
<p>@Laurel &#8211; you must admit this is a bit of an oversight on your part</p>
<p>@Gary Hayes &#8211; your comment about &#8216;out of context reporting&#8217; is ironic, given that the Laurel Post appears to have left out some fairly big points and seems to include some inaccurate ones. The video may be satirical, but the post is worded in an authoritative tone, implying that the research has been done, yet its appears in some cases this may not be so.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20416</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone&#039;s talkin&#039; &#039;bout Yaris!......Was this the true strategy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone&#8217;s talkin&#8217; &#8217;bout Yaris!&#8230;&#8230;Was this the true strategy?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Hayes</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20408</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve just done two minutes of research – which appears to be two more minutes than Laurel has done.&quot; Careful Tim - your starting to sound like some of your anonymous, ghost writer entourage that regularly appear on Laurel bashing posts! 

Amazed that no one seems to have appreciated the &#039;satirical&#039; nature of the video, rather bizarrely picking up on a line here and there. But this seems to be true of most of the threads on the non press release republishing parts of this blog that can&#039;t see the wood for the trees. I for one (disclaimer groan&quot; I am Laurels partner&#039; - oh but also number 5 Australian AdAge media/marketing blogger at moment) know for a fact that Laurel did far more than your 2 minutes of research hence the weight of agreement falling on her assessment vs a few in the Oz Digital camp - that frequent the Mumbles echo anon chamber.  

But please, please take the video as being a satirical look at the way traditional ad agencies &#039;push&#039; rather than &#039;involve&#039; themselves into social media, and see the keen observations there and for once Tim, stand back and stop picking up on individual lines (in this video and her media140 talk)  to back up your own prejudices and anti-blogger positioning - it might start to appear as &#039;out of context reporting&#039; if your not careful. Finally glad to see her &#039;satire&#039;  has picked up nearly 1300 views in a day - hows Mumbles TV doing at the moment :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve just done two minutes of research – which appears to be two more minutes than Laurel has done.&#8221; Careful Tim &#8211; your starting to sound like some of your anonymous, ghost writer entourage that regularly appear on Laurel bashing posts! </p>
<p>Amazed that no one seems to have appreciated the &#8216;satirical&#8217; nature of the video, rather bizarrely picking up on a line here and there. But this seems to be true of most of the threads on the non press release republishing parts of this blog that can&#8217;t see the wood for the trees. I for one (disclaimer groan&#8221; I am Laurels partner&#8217; &#8211; oh but also number 5 Australian AdAge media/marketing blogger at moment) know for a fact that Laurel did far more than your 2 minutes of research hence the weight of agreement falling on her assessment vs a few in the Oz Digital camp &#8211; that frequent the Mumbles echo anon chamber.  </p>
<p>But please, please take the video as being a satirical look at the way traditional ad agencies &#8216;push&#8217; rather than &#8216;involve&#8217; themselves into social media, and see the keen observations there and for once Tim, stand back and stop picking up on individual lines (in this video and her media140 talk)  to back up your own prejudices and anti-blogger positioning &#8211; it might start to appear as &#8216;out of context reporting&#8217; if your not careful. Finally glad to see her &#8216;satire&#8217;  has picked up nearly 1300 views in a day &#8211; hows Mumbles TV doing at the moment <img src='http://mumbrella.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Collins</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20385</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Sam Granleese wins for funniest comment of the day.</description>
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		<title>By: How on Earth</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20383</link>
		<dc:creator>How on Earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have to agree that I have terrible grammar (sic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have to agree that I have terrible grammar (sic)</p>
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		<title>By: How on Earth</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20381</link>
		<dc:creator>How on Earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with PR Hack, Laurel&#039;s site is doesn&#039;t seem to have actual case studies of work, or results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with PR Hack, Laurel&#8217;s site is doesn&#8217;t seem to have actual case studies of work, or results.</p>
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		<title>By: Granleese</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20377</link>
		<dc:creator>Granleese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a tree falls in the social media commentating/consultant forest, does it make a sound?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a tree falls in the social media commentating/consultant forest, does it make a sound?</p>
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		<title>By: PRhack</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20376</link>
		<dc:creator>PRhack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what risky water, i want campaigns, case studies, results please</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen Collins</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20370</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PRHack you tread risky waters, friend. Laurel has more than enough CV to fill a big swimming pool - http://laurelpapworth.com/about/

Like I said earlier, she&#039;s a friend and also a competitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PRHack you tread risky waters, friend. Laurel has more than enough CV to fill a big swimming pool &#8211; <a href="http://laurelpapworth.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://laurelpapworth.com/about/</a></p>
<p>Like I said earlier, she&#8217;s a friend and also a competitor.</p>
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		<title>By: PRhack</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20366</link>
		<dc:creator>PRhack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please point me in the direction of campaign(s) that Laurel has actually done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please point me in the direction of campaign(s) that Laurel has actually done.</p>
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		<title>By: peta</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/laurels-war-on-social-media-agencies-11303#comment-20357</link>
		<dc:creator>peta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurel you are a genius!</description>
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