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	<title>Comments on: New digital agency Nucleus: We don&#8217;t buy the social media bullshit</title>
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		<title>By: Surfspank</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20930</link>
		<dc:creator>Surfspank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha, this must be a piss take as nobody would let the drunken spider that fell in the ink pot crawl across PhotoShop to produce such a crap logo and also crap fonts!!!

If this is serious then I&#039;m sure the big clients would want to endorse and align with black and white imagery with no imagination...........


I know there is a gen A on the way and for a 2 year old the logo isn&#039;t too bad ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha, this must be a piss take as nobody would let the drunken spider that fell in the ink pot crawl across PhotoShop to produce such a crap logo and also crap fonts!!!</p>
<p>If this is serious then I&#8217;m sure the big clients would want to endorse and align with black and white imagery with no imagination&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I know there is a gen A on the way and for a 2 year old the logo isn&#8217;t too bad <img src='http://mumbrella.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20722</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is rediculous, I am sorry but there is a time to be &#039;Candid&#039; but attracting new business by cuuting through the &#039;bullshit&#039;, hmm I say you are full of Sh*t yourselves. 
Anyone who discounts the value of social media is clearly, look at Facebooks penetration and expected growth, there is no other single entity ont he planet that should be as respected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rediculous, I am sorry but there is a time to be &#8216;Candid&#8217; but attracting new business by cuuting through the &#8216;bullshit&#8217;, hmm I say you are full of Sh*t yourselves.<br />
Anyone who discounts the value of social media is clearly, look at Facebooks penetration and expected growth, there is no other single entity ont he planet that should be as respected.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20612</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not taking social media seriously, oh dear that sounds like advertising agencies several years ago regarding digital! Big mistake boys, I think you need to read some more case studies maybe from overseas on successful marketing using social media.

&quot;We don&#039;t buy the social media bullshit&quot; kamikaze statement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not taking social media seriously, oh dear that sounds like advertising agencies several years ago regarding digital! Big mistake boys, I think you need to read some more case studies maybe from overseas on successful marketing using social media.</p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t buy the social media bullshit&#8221; kamikaze statement!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20541</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“There’s a fair bit of breaking down the bullshit barrier with social media. There’s too much bullshit about social media. Not much of it is commercial anyway – it’s a very small portion of the marketing mix.”

What about the bs in traditional media?  
- Telling people that millions watched Idol based on a tiny selection of &#039;active TV users&#039; having boxes on their TV&#039;s with channel 10 switched on but were out doing the gardening and did not watch a thing is surely not true clarity to an advertiser?

BS in all media needs to be addressed as online becomes more and more accountable and independent tools like say Analytics from Google allows us to know exactly how many people visit a website etc  traditional has a lot to do here although online also needs to be transparent too...


It would be good to have an agency to focus on cutting out the bs in media(.)

Good luck with the launch Nucleus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“There’s a fair bit of breaking down the bullshit barrier with social media. There’s too much bullshit about social media. Not much of it is commercial anyway – it’s a very small portion of the marketing mix.”</p>
<p>What about the bs in traditional media?<br />
- Telling people that millions watched Idol based on a tiny selection of &#8216;active TV users&#8217; having boxes on their TV&#8217;s with channel 10 switched on but were out doing the gardening and did not watch a thing is surely not true clarity to an advertiser?</p>
<p>BS in all media needs to be addressed as online becomes more and more accountable and independent tools like say Analytics from Google allows us to know exactly how many people visit a website etc  traditional has a lot to do here although online also needs to be transparent too&#8230;</p>
<p>It would be good to have an agency to focus on cutting out the bs in media(.)</p>
<p>Good luck with the launch Nucleus.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20447</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How cute. Execution is a commodity.

God knows we wouldnt want to commoditise marketing and advertising.

That would be truly awful.

Imagine being able to measure and trade marketing assets versus the nonsense that exists now of claim and counter claim about superior strategy.

Motherhood motherhood motherhood motherhood. Grow up you children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How cute. Execution is a commodity.</p>
<p>God knows we wouldnt want to commoditise marketing and advertising.</p>
<p>That would be truly awful.</p>
<p>Imagine being able to measure and trade marketing assets versus the nonsense that exists now of claim and counter claim about superior strategy.</p>
<p>Motherhood motherhood motherhood motherhood. Grow up you children.</p>
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		<title>By: friar32</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20422</link>
		<dc:creator>friar32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>their actual release is here, its a bit more illuminating than just the grabs here. probably answers some of the things raised...http://www.nucleusdigitalstrategy.com/pdf/nucleus_mediarelease091109.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>their actual release is here, its a bit more illuminating than just the grabs here. probably answers some of the things raised&#8230;<a href="http://www.nucleusdigitalstrategy.com/pdf/nucleus_mediarelease091109.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nucleusdigitalstrat.....091109.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: the kid</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20338</link>
		<dc:creator>the kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a client the amount of times I&#039;ve been sold the social media line - make some cool widget, game, app, video so people can share it on &#039;social media&#039; - is as remarkable as it is lame. Social media is primarily for people to interact with each other, not with brands, branding, or our &#039;cool&#039; shit. The tiny percentage of stuff that cuts through is as brilliant creatively as it is strategically, and we all know that combination is rare. Taking the easy &#039;social media&#039; option off the table, or even reducing it as a core focus may actually stimulate some solid thinking around innovative digital strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a client the amount of times I&#8217;ve been sold the social media line &#8211; make some cool widget, game, app, video so people can share it on &#8216;social media&#8217; &#8211; is as remarkable as it is lame. Social media is primarily for people to interact with each other, not with brands, branding, or our &#8216;cool&#8217; shit. The tiny percentage of stuff that cuts through is as brilliant creatively as it is strategically, and we all know that combination is rare. Taking the easy &#8216;social media&#8217; option off the table, or even reducing it as a core focus may actually stimulate some solid thinking around innovative digital strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20334</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Evil Banker, To be fair, I don&#039;t think they said that social media is &quot;bullshit&quot;, just that much of what masquerades as strategy is bs. Surely that&#039;s true! @ Tim Nicholas if you read the article you&#039;ll see that they *don&#039;t* say they won&#039;t include social media in their strategies, just that it isn&#039;t the main game. Reasonable comment, wouldn&#039;t you say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Evil Banker, To be fair, I don&#8217;t think they said that social media is &#8220;bullshit&#8221;, just that much of what masquerades as strategy is bs. Surely that&#8217;s true! @ Tim Nicholas if you read the article you&#8217;ll see that they *don&#8217;t* say they won&#8217;t include social media in their strategies, just that it isn&#8217;t the main game. Reasonable comment, wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Banker</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20304</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Banker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Nucleus was around the 1890&#039;s they would have said &quot;the telephone is bullshit.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Nucleus was around the 1890&#8242;s they would have said &#8220;the telephone is bullshit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Interactive MIx</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20300</link>
		<dc:creator>Interactive MIx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is definitely room (and a screaming need) for an agency that focuses on strategy and moves away from a tactical approach based on individual disciplines.  Its one of the prime reasons why I created &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.interactive-mix.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interactive Mix&lt;/a&gt;,  and he is right that production is being commoditised, especially at the low end, but rather than focussing on &#039;the &#039;bullshit&#039; of a media type, surely the focus should be providing a joined up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.interactive-mix.com/imix.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;digital marketing strategy&lt;/a&gt;.  Clients have had enough of being presented with technology and are now looking for people who focus on providing solutions that will give a clear ROI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is definitely room (and a screaming need) for an agency that focuses on strategy and moves away from a tactical approach based on individual disciplines.  Its one of the prime reasons why I created <a href="http://www.interactive-mix.com" rel="nofollow">interactive Mix</a>,  and he is right that production is being commoditised, especially at the low end, but rather than focussing on &#8216;the &#8216;bullshit&#8217; of a media type, surely the focus should be providing a joined up <a href="http://www.interactive-mix.com/imix.html" rel="nofollow">digital marketing strategy</a>.  Clients have had enough of being presented with technology and are now looking for people who focus on providing solutions that will give a clear ROI.</p>
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		<title>By: Megaman</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20233</link>
		<dc:creator>Megaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets see what they come up with - they might be onto something

@Davy Adams - good call of the situation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets see what they come up with &#8211; they might be onto something</p>
<p>@Davy Adams &#8211; good call of the situation</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20232</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps check his LinkedIn - Clemenger Group</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps check his LinkedIn &#8211; Clemenger Group</p>
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		<title>By: Truthbuster</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20223</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fiteni never worked at Clems - what a fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiteni never worked at Clems &#8211; what a fake.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20208</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The logo makes me feel sick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The logo makes me feel sick</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Beaupeurt</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/new-digital-agency-nucleus-we-dont-buy-the-social-media-bullshit-11335#comment-20202</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Beaupeurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

I think you might be on to something, perhaps not entirely - but to some extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you might be on to something, perhaps not entirely &#8211; but to some extent.</p>
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