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By: Dealing with rape: Kyle and Jackie take the fall for Austereo « Woolly Days

Dealing with rape: Kyle and Jackie take the fall for Austereo « Woolly Days — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:41:52 +0000

[...] may believe they should have no role to play in it. But they were made to think otherwise when the complaints started to target Optus over their sponsorship arrangements. Faced with big business loss of face, the writing was on the [...]

By: jules

jules — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:07:51 +0000

andrew yole you’re my hero.

robyn you are not.

did i read that correctly? an adult is blaming the victim and a child at that? the girl didn’t want to be on the show, she announced that at the start quite clearly. the adults didn’t listen.

should she had answered ‘no’ to having sex and been detected to be lying, she would have been probed to tell the truth and this story would have unraveled anyhow. should she have answered ‘yes’ to having had sex (neglecting to mention it wasn’t her choice), then she would have endured the scrutiny of not only the adults in the room but the listeners as well. she should never, ever have been set up like this.

the only people deserving to be judged are those who are responsible for the segment going to air and the legal guardian. and once that judgment has been handed down by the necessary authorities on the matter.. then everyone can get back to their day jobs (if they still have one).

By: Andrew Yoole

Andrew Yoole — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:46:27 +0000

^ Hey, Robyn, you’re right!

It’s almost as if she was, like, a kid, and made irresponsible decisions!

Maybe, if there were some responsible adults around – like, producers of a publicly broadcast radio show – they might have realised it was irresponsible to put a 14 year old onto a lie detector! And question her about her sex life?

Ya think?

By: Robyn

Robyn — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:16:15 +0000

Sorry but I don’t think the girl was totally innocent in this case. She knew exactly what the question was asking. The question was if she had sex, not if she had been raped. The girl then chose to blurt out on national radio in a cocky voice that she had been raped. It came across to me that she wanted to embarrass the mother by blurting that out. The girl was in full control of what she said and she was the one to allow them to strap her to a lie detector. Nobody forced her to do this. It isn’t the fault of the radio announcers. There is no way they could have predicted what the girl was going to say and they sure as hell couldn’t control what came out of her mouth. The whole situation has been blown out of proportion and Kyle and Jackie could lose their jobs over this. Very sad situation.

By: Rod

Rod — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:42:48 +0000

People keep reporting on this single segment which went wrong. This segment has been running for 3 years and this is the first time something has gone wrong.

How about list the donations they have made to charaties and how many families they have helped over the years?

By: Andrew Yoole

Andrew Yoole — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:17:20 +0000

I can’t find a link to post a complaint online to 2Day FM, but Austereo has one:

http://www.austereo.com.au/ind.....Itemid=186

I urge everyone to notify Austereo of your concerns about this issue. I’ve cross-posted this link on all of Mumbrella’s related threads.

By: Andrew Yoole

Andrew Yoole — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:13:38 +0000

@ Kel,

Are you serious??! You comment yourself that the girl is unstable, so what show-producer, lawyer or host could POSSIBLY justify questioning that underaged girl on a light entertainment program during a morning broadcast?

The media hasn’t got it wrong, Kel. This kind of program damages people like the 14yo girl in question. If the producers were genuinely concerned for her welfare, why not send her to a professional counselor, rather than strap her to a lie detector against her will and get two bimbo hosts to question her on public radio?

The girl now not only has to deal with her own demons, she has issues of public ridicule and shame compounding her confused young life. The program was a disgrace BEFORE she revealed she’d been raped.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:36:23 +0000

That Kyle and Jackie O are heinous cretins is a given, it’s not news, but so are all the people in any way associated with them. This not only includes the producers and sponsors of their asinine “show”, the appalling mother that foisted this outrage on her daughter, the scum that dreamed the whole stunt up, but wait for it, the listeners too. If there wasn’t an audience for this swill, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. So come on people, take some responsibilty for what enters your ears, lift your game, and stop listening to this crap. If enough people turn off, these awful “personalities” will just disappear back into the dark hole they crawled out from.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:05:54 +0000

Optus. Proud sponsor of underage child sex.

By: Billy C

Billy C — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:51:58 +0000

People may also consider writing to Singtel perhaps. The logo has gone from the shows website.

By: Spunky1972

Spunky1972 — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:31:26 +0000

I don’t know who is to blame for this – I feel the mother is.

I just think it’s tragic that a 14 year old consents to being grilled on national radio, wired up to a lie detector, because it’s the only way she thinks her mother will believe that she was raped – what a horrific ordeal

By: jules

jules — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:08:46 +0000

@ lachy
I agree with you completely. The idea that a production crew suggested getting a minor discuss the activities of their body while hooked up to a lie detector test is appalling. The fact that this concept was approved and subsequently a minor, with guardian, was sought, equally appalling. The mother has ultimate responsibility for her daughter but let’s face it, if this family had declined the opportunity to win pink tickets in this manner, another would have agreed. This segment would have aired one way or another. I have no idea the circumstances of the parent, i do not know why she made the decisions she did but public outrage or hatred of the mother wont help the daughter one bit. Clearly she needs some assistance in the parenting department. The parent also didnt design this segment nor market it. It went to air because of the producers, presenters and sponsors. We also know that kyle and jackie o have escaped reprimand for their small minded, unintelligible opinions for long enough. They have made money and claimed fame for it. And this time they agreed to conduct a segment which stepped over the line in every possible way. They are accountable.
Its a tragedy someone so young has experienced rape, and that it was outed on national radio. But it was appalling, prior to this, simply by placing her (a minor) in a group of adults and asking about about her sex life. Rant complete!

By: Lachy

Lachy — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:59:42 +0000

@ Kel

No doubt the mother’s actions are reprehensible here.

However, the presenters and radio station have far more to answer for. As has been well covered, the segment was a gross violation of the girls rights and should never have got approval. Hell it should never have even been seriously considered.

But lets be honest, this sort of behaviour is de rigueur for the Kyle and Jackie O show, and particularly Kyle.

Absolutely they must be sent a message. Austereo won’t do anything about this on their own, they and Kyle/Jackie and a bunch of bullies and have grown fat and wealthy from it. It’s lowest common denomenator at its worst and is grossly detrimental to society.

Imagine if all advertisers refused to sponsor anything that Kyle/Jackie were involved in from now on. The precedent would by amazing.

By: Hirsty

Hirsty — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:42:27 +0000

Who finds it acceptable to humiliate a 14 year old girl?
Who profits from that?
Isn’t trust the real victim in this appalling debacle?

By: Shirley

Shirley — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:37:00 +0000

Kyle and Jackie O are appalling anyway, but where was the mother in this? The girl clearly didn’t want to do it, and her disgusting mother chose to put her daughter on the radio to discuss something (perceived possibility of sexual activity) that in the case of a 14 year old girl is better discussed with a counsellor, in private, so that if there is a problem with precocious sexuality it can be dealt with in a manner beneficial to the child. How on earth does putting a lie detector on a child on a radio show in any way fulfil the criteria of a good parent to protect her child. Disgusting radio show. Disgusting parent.