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	<title>Comments on: Social Media Club Sydney accused of &#8216;commercial infiltration&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-4336</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 05:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those that couldn&#039;t make it, or decided it wasn&#039;t for them, you missed a great evening. Good debate, good speakers, a multitude of opinions and from my perspective, no commercial infiltration. For those that want a snippet of what they missed, see video via http://lexyklain.vox.com/library/post/video-footage-from-smcsyd---adam-ferrier-talks-witchery-man-campaign.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that couldn&#8217;t make it, or decided it wasn&#8217;t for them, you missed a great evening. Good debate, good speakers, a multitude of opinions and from my perspective, no commercial infiltration. For those that want a snippet of what they missed, see video via <a href="http://lexyklain.vox.com/library/post/video-footage-from-smcsyd---adam-ferrier-talks-witchery-man-campaign.html" rel="nofollow">http://lexyklain.vox.com/libra.....paign.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: how to be a very public joke&#8230; &#171; Sting in the Tail</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-4134</link>
		<dc:creator>how to be a very public joke&#8230; &#171; Sting in the Tail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s being said that some people are not joining Twitter, and having social media get-togethers, just because they&#8217;re fun people, oh no - they just want to make themselves look good. *sudden intake of breath* That&#8217;s right, some evil meejah peeps are trying to manipulate public opinion! OMG. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s being said that some people are not joining Twitter, and having social media get-togethers, just because they&#8217;re fun people, oh no &#8211; they just want to make themselves look good. *sudden intake of breath* That&#8217;s right, some evil meejah peeps are trying to manipulate public opinion! OMG. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Chapman</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-4063</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

There will be a pod cast of both talks available within a couple of days.

Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>There will be a pod cast of both talks available within a couple of days.</p>
<p>Doug</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Shepherd</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-4062</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is tonight yeah? is anyone planning a summary - I want to hear how Adam&#039;s talk goes and the response at the actual event (versus the hash tag response on twitter which will no doubt be critical)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is tonight yeah? is anyone planning a summary &#8211; I want to hear how Adam&#8217;s talk goes and the response at the actual event (versus the hash tag response on twitter which will no doubt be critical)</p>
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		<title>By: William Felt</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-3516</link>
		<dc:creator>William Felt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did it &quot;gr8&quot; on anyone else to see &quot;g8t&quot; used as an abbreviation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did it &#8220;gr8&#8243; on anyone else to see &#8220;g8t&#8221; used as an abbreviation?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Collins</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-3364</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leslie - with that, you have successfully pointed out the ridiculousness of this whole thing.

For everyone, turn up or not - it doesn&#039;t matter. But I reckon you&#039;d be welcome. And, if we&#039;re going to talk about industry happenings, we should all be sure we have our facts straight and know who we&#039;re talking to and about - Conroy impersonators, commercialism of events or otherwise, ladies and jackets, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leslie &#8211; with that, you have successfully pointed out the ridiculousness of this whole thing.</p>
<p>For everyone, turn up or not &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t matter. But I reckon you&#8217;d be welcome. And, if we&#8217;re going to talk about industry happenings, we should all be sure we have our facts straight and know who we&#8217;re talking to and about &#8211; Conroy impersonators, commercialism of events or otherwise, ladies and jackets, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Jye Smith</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-3363</link>
		<dc:creator>Jye Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leslie: lol. best simile. ever. hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leslie: lol. best simile. ever. hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Lucio Ribeiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucio Ribeiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here at Melbourne SMC we named Chuck Norris as board member to prevent such thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here at Melbourne SMC we named Chuck Norris as board member to prevent such thing</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Nassar</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-3361</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Nassar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Commercial Infiltration&quot; sounds filthy, like some kind of military-industrial Hentai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Commercial Infiltration&#8221; sounds filthy, like some kind of military-industrial Hentai.</p>
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		<title>By: inspiredworlds</title>
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		<dc:creator>inspiredworlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve been casually observing this debate since it started on twitter. for me, i&#039;m going into SMCSYD with an open mind and i&#039;m not going to make any judgement until I&#039;ve been to at least one. 

i&#039;m encouraging a couple of my friends to come along who don&#039;t work in the digital industry but are really interested in social media. for them, they don&#039;t really have the chance to engage with social media people and hear about social media. but its obviously a topic which everyone wants to know about and to learn how to engage this medium. 

if it just turns out to be marketing exercise or not very insightful, then we won&#039;t go again. i just hope that it doens&#039;t get shot down before i even attend one of them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been casually observing this debate since it started on twitter. for me, i&#8217;m going into SMCSYD with an open mind and i&#8217;m not going to make any judgement until I&#8217;ve been to at least one. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m encouraging a couple of my friends to come along who don&#8217;t work in the digital industry but are really interested in social media. for them, they don&#8217;t really have the chance to engage with social media people and hear about social media. but its obviously a topic which everyone wants to know about and to learn how to engage this medium. </p>
<p>if it just turns out to be marketing exercise or not very insightful, then we won&#8217;t go again. i just hope that it doens&#8217;t get shot down before i even attend one of them!</p>
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		<title>By: Fi Bendall</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-3330</link>
		<dc:creator>Fi Bendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I posted I expected this article to create debate and also expected the negative as well as positive feedback. Kate, editor of this blog, who has set up the Melbourne SMC was interested in these views to suggest a piece and publish this article, which is great for openness of the debate of the role of SMC. SMC has presented their case heartily and shared their views most candidly which is what this is all about. It is great that everyone feels they can contribute whether in agreement or not with the SMC approach. On the negative post backs, thanks for sharing your most negative views of this blog post as it certainly has provided me with lots of insights into the roles of associations / clubs for an emerging social media channel. A media channel that has it unique place in openness and candid debate / feedback from individual users on the net about any issues they want to discuss or lobby for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I posted I expected this article to create debate and also expected the negative as well as positive feedback. Kate, editor of this blog, who has set up the Melbourne SMC was interested in these views to suggest a piece and publish this article, which is great for openness of the debate of the role of SMC. SMC has presented their case heartily and shared their views most candidly which is what this is all about. It is great that everyone feels they can contribute whether in agreement or not with the SMC approach. On the negative post backs, thanks for sharing your most negative views of this blog post as it certainly has provided me with lots of insights into the roles of associations / clubs for an emerging social media channel. A media channel that has it unique place in openness and candid debate / feedback from individual users on the net about any issues they want to discuss or lobby for.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Shepherd</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-3329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart pageview generator Tim ... will keep the stats ticking over the Easter break ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart pageview generator Tim &#8230; will keep the stats ticking over the Easter break <img src='http://mumbrella.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lucio ribeiro</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-3326</link>
		<dc:creator>lucio ribeiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know? What a great loosing time.
What could be a great opportunity became a lousy discussion.
I respect Fi and many more around here like Simon and Des,
I also respect Kristie Wells who is a great person.
Kate (marketingMag) beautifully kicked off Melbourne Chapter and since them I&#039;ve been meeting interesting people and having interesting conversation. Honestly sometimes I sold my services but also bought services from people there. I visit the breakfast with intention of talk to friends and get to know new ones, but if I have the chance to do business why not?
I can&#039;t understand all the fuss about.
Just let it go.
Some people just look like fanatics withou a cause! 
Good fortune for those who initiated and exercised leadership. 
Churchill one said: &quot; I cannot pretend to feel impartial about colors. I rejoice with the brilliant ones and am genuinely sorry for the poor browns.&quot; and i think is pretty clear.
Lucio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know? What a great loosing time.<br />
What could be a great opportunity became a lousy discussion.<br />
I respect Fi and many more around here like Simon and Des,<br />
I also respect Kristie Wells who is a great person.<br />
Kate (marketingMag) beautifully kicked off Melbourne Chapter and since them I&#8217;ve been meeting interesting people and having interesting conversation. Honestly sometimes I sold my services but also bought services from people there. I visit the breakfast with intention of talk to friends and get to know new ones, but if I have the chance to do business why not?<br />
I can&#8217;t understand all the fuss about.<br />
Just let it go.<br />
Some people just look like fanatics withou a cause!<br />
Good fortune for those who initiated and exercised leadership.<br />
Churchill one said: &#8221; I cannot pretend to feel impartial about colors. I rejoice with the brilliant ones and am genuinely sorry for the poor browns.&#8221; and i think is pretty clear.<br />
Lucio</p>
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		<title>By: Talking vs doing &#171; Who is in control of your brand?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talking vs doing &#171; Who is in control of your brand?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the two is great. However, in the Australian social media arena talking out weighs the doing, see example #234 of 237 from yesterday. Doing vs talking over [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the two is great. However, in the Australian social media arena talking out weighs the doing, see example #234 of 237 from yesterday. Doing vs talking over [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/social-media-club-sydney-accused-of-commercial-infiltration-4493#comment-3324</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to start my own social media club - with blackjack! And hookers!*

Those involved in the SMC probably have a mixture of motives - some altruistic, some selfish. We can surmise this because they are human beings and human beings tend to have a mixture of motives for everything they do.

The question is not: is it pure? But rather, is it helpful? And the fact that scads of people want to turn up to this event indicates that it is probably helpful.

If anyone starts claiming to offer &quot;standards&quot; or &quot;certification&quot; in social software then I&#039;ll be  reaching for my shotgun. Until then, I&#039;m keeping my powder dry...

*10 years later and that remains one of my favourite Futurama gags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to start my own social media club &#8211; with blackjack! And hookers!*</p>
<p>Those involved in the SMC probably have a mixture of motives &#8211; some altruistic, some selfish. We can surmise this because they are human beings and human beings tend to have a mixture of motives for everything they do.</p>
<p>The question is not: is it pure? But rather, is it helpful? And the fact that scads of people want to turn up to this event indicates that it is probably helpful.</p>
<p>If anyone starts claiming to offer &#8220;standards&#8221; or &#8220;certification&#8221; in social software then I&#8217;ll be  reaching for my shotgun. Until then, I&#8217;m keeping my powder dry&#8230;</p>
<p>*10 years later and that remains one of my favourite Futurama gags.</p>
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