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		<title>By: Aussies Watching Less TV Than Ever &#124; Lifehacker Australia</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-19753</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussies Watching Less TV Than Ever &#124; Lifehacker Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Art Vandelay</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18976</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Vandelay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrob: I think the point he&#039;s making is in regard to overall audience numbers, not necessarily the penetration of the ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrob: I think the point he&#8217;s making is in regard to overall audience numbers, not necessarily the penetration of the ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrob</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18975</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, cause everyone watches the ads on their timeshifted PVR&#039;s so they are a REALLY valuable audience for advertisers. 

One of the big advantages of a PVR is to skip the ads. Isn&#039;t it? So you can discount 90% plus of these people surely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, cause everyone watches the ads on their timeshifted PVR&#8217;s so they are a REALLY valuable audience for advertisers. </p>
<p>One of the big advantages of a PVR is to skip the ads. Isn&#8217;t it? So you can discount 90% plus of these people surely?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Gulland</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18961</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gulland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surpised the figures aren&#039;t higher I&#039;d like the programmers to see if they can appreciate the programme they broadcast in between the advertisments, infomercials and station promos. No wonder we station switch or record to replay were we can manage the barrage. Surely the bean counters can work a better balnce , where the advertiser gets a better deal, and so to will the the viewer. SBS has a good balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surpised the figures aren&#8217;t higher I&#8217;d like the programmers to see if they can appreciate the programme they broadcast in between the advertisments, infomercials and station promos. No wonder we station switch or record to replay were we can manage the barrage. Surely the bean counters can work a better balnce , where the advertiser gets a better deal, and so to will the the viewer. SBS has a good balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon van Wyk</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18960</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon van Wyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find the numbers so I can&#039;t quote them but I thought the bigger story was the decline in time spent watching TV and the increase in time on the Internet.  I know in the UK there is more time spent online that watching TV.   I think in this country this is still controversial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find the numbers so I can&#8217;t quote them but I thought the bigger story was the decline in time spent watching TV and the increase in time on the Internet.  I know in the UK there is more time spent online that watching TV.   I think in this country this is still controversial.</p>
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		<title>By: John Grono</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18943</link>
		<dc:creator>John Grono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want a simple explanation?

The OzTAM data is for LIVE viewing only.   Anyone who uses a DVR, their Foxtel iQ, their TiVo, burns to DVD, or records to VCR (yes they still exist) and then watch the programme back aren&#039;t counted.

With the explosion in sales of DVRs, Foxtel&#039;s push on iQ, and Seven backing TiVo this simply HAS to be having an effect.

The good news is that starting with the 2010 television year, OzTAM will be reporting any playback that occurs within seven days.   All that unreported viewing will be reported, so expect 2010 to show growth on 2009, simply because the &quot;lost&quot; time-shifted viewing will be incorporated.

If you look at US data (Nielsen) around about 5% of all viewing is time-shifted (with a PVR penetration rate of around 25%), and in the UK around 4% (BARB) of all viewing is time-shifted (with a PVR penetration rate or around 23%).   Given that Australia&#039;s PVR is around the same, I&#039;d expect to see around the same lift in 2010.

I wonder what the headlines will read this time next year?   Don&#039;t forget what Mark Twain is reported as saying upon reading his own obituary in the New York Journal ... &quot;the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want a simple explanation?</p>
<p>The OzTAM data is for LIVE viewing only.   Anyone who uses a DVR, their Foxtel iQ, their TiVo, burns to DVD, or records to VCR (yes they still exist) and then watch the programme back aren&#8217;t counted.</p>
<p>With the explosion in sales of DVRs, Foxtel&#8217;s push on iQ, and Seven backing TiVo this simply HAS to be having an effect.</p>
<p>The good news is that starting with the 2010 television year, OzTAM will be reporting any playback that occurs within seven days.   All that unreported viewing will be reported, so expect 2010 to show growth on 2009, simply because the &#8220;lost&#8221; time-shifted viewing will be incorporated.</p>
<p>If you look at US data (Nielsen) around about 5% of all viewing is time-shifted (with a PVR penetration rate of around 25%), and in the UK around 4% (BARB) of all viewing is time-shifted (with a PVR penetration rate or around 23%).   Given that Australia&#8217;s PVR is around the same, I&#8217;d expect to see around the same lift in 2010.</p>
<p>I wonder what the headlines will read this time next year?   Don&#8217;t forget what Mark Twain is reported as saying upon reading his own obituary in the New York Journal &#8230; &#8220;the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have to say Art Vandalay makes for good reading.

chris a - nice figures but what do they actually mean. conference speak is lovely but falls down when it comes to real world scenarios generally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have to say Art Vandalay makes for good reading.</p>
<p>chris a &#8211; nice figures but what do they actually mean. conference speak is lovely but falls down when it comes to real world scenarios generally.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One factor that isn&#039;t showing in YOY comparisons is time shifted viewing. 

OzTAM&#039;s 2009 panels only capture and report live viewing, but from next year they&#039;ll also release As Live (viewing on the same day) + Timeshift (viewing after the day of broadcast but viewed within seven days). Based on overseas data there&#039;s good reason to believe the net effect will show an increase in total viewing in 000s and time spent viewing.

That&#039;s only one additional consideration. Even with the current data we could look at changes by channel, variance across the year, commercial FTA vs total FTA, and so on. The real picture is complex and nuanced, and &quot;viewers turn away from TV in 2009&quot; isn&#039;t a particularly deep summary of the trends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One factor that isn&#8217;t showing in YOY comparisons is time shifted viewing. </p>
<p>OzTAM&#8217;s 2009 panels only capture and report live viewing, but from next year they&#8217;ll also release As Live (viewing on the same day) + Timeshift (viewing after the day of broadcast but viewed within seven days). Based on overseas data there&#8217;s good reason to believe the net effect will show an increase in total viewing in 000s and time spent viewing.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s only one additional consideration. Even with the current data we could look at changes by channel, variance across the year, commercial FTA vs total FTA, and so on. The real picture is complex and nuanced, and &#8220;viewers turn away from TV in 2009&#8243; isn&#8217;t a particularly deep summary of the trends.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Culture Links: October 26th 2009 &#171; Tama Leaver dot Net</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18933</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Culture Links: October 26th 2009 &#171; Tama Leaver dot Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Viewers turn away from TV in 2009 [ mUmBRELLA] - &quot;Total prime time TV audiences have fallen below 5m in Australia, according to a new analysis of viewing data so far this year. This is despite the arrival of the new Freeview and subscription TV channels to tempt viewers. According to the analysis of figures across the prime 6pm to 10.30pm slot, the average audience has fallen from 5,027,868 in 2008 to 4,969,810 in 2009. This marks a decline of around 60,000 prime time viewers per evening – or a fall of just over 1%. This is despite the Australian population growing by more than 2% during the same period.&quot; (I wonder how this compares to an increase in viewing shared video online ... combine the YouTube and TV stats and I suspect overall engagement with broadcast and streamed video would be up.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Viewers turn away from TV in 2009 [ mUmBRELLA] &#8211; &quot;Total prime time TV audiences have fallen below 5m in Australia, according to a new analysis of viewing data so far this year. This is despite the arrival of the new Freeview and subscription TV channels to tempt viewers. According to the analysis of figures across the prime 6pm to 10.30pm slot, the average audience has fallen from 5,027,868 in 2008 to 4,969,810 in 2009. This marks a decline of around 60,000 prime time viewers per evening – or a fall of just over 1%. This is despite the Australian population growing by more than 2% during the same period.&quot; (I wonder how this compares to an increase in viewing shared video online &#8230; combine the YouTube and TV stats and I suspect overall engagement with broadcast and streamed video would be up.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of how many people are watching TV, the advertising dollars the medium attracts should be linked directly to how much TV is contributing towards various advertisers sales.  Indeed, if fewer people watch but those that do watch buy more stuff then actually more money should flow into TV.  It is now possible to analyse TV (and other media) in this way, and actually far more appropriate to do so. The &#039;mine is bigger than yours&#039; approach to selling media is what we should be doing away with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how many people are watching TV, the advertising dollars the medium attracts should be linked directly to how much TV is contributing towards various advertisers sales.  Indeed, if fewer people watch but those that do watch buy more stuff then actually more money should flow into TV.  It is now possible to analyse TV (and other media) in this way, and actually far more appropriate to do so. The &#8216;mine is bigger than yours&#8217; approach to selling media is what we should be doing away with.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bunt</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18929</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TV has become &quot;cheap.&quot; Many nights is simply a wasteland - both Freeview and Pay TV. And as for the new digital channels.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV has become &#8220;cheap.&#8221; Many nights is simply a wasteland &#8211; both Freeview and Pay TV. And as for the new digital channels&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please please please no adverts on the mobile.  It pains me to watch a 30 second Special K ad to get to the video of the 27 second news report on SMH.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please please please no adverts on the mobile.  It pains me to watch a 30 second Special K ad to get to the video of the 27 second news report on SMH.com</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18923</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the rise in uptake of PVR&#039;s and other digital TV recording devices that allow  viewers to easily break free from the TV Networks broadcast schedule and watch shows in their own time. 

These viewers are still watching free-to-air TV, they are just not being counted by OzTam at present. Perhaps because they can easily skip the ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the rise in uptake of PVR&#8217;s and other digital TV recording devices that allow  viewers to easily break free from the TV Networks broadcast schedule and watch shows in their own time. </p>
<p>These viewers are still watching free-to-air TV, they are just not being counted by OzTam at present. Perhaps because they can easily skip the ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Vandelay</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/viewers-turn-away-from-tv-in-2009-10734#comment-18922</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Vandelay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris A- If you spent more time actually reading the article before throwing yourself into some astrix ridden diatribe about how many mobile phones there are in the world, you&#039;d realise the figure&#039;s 1%, not 2%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris A- If you spent more time actually reading the article before throwing yourself into some astrix ridden diatribe about how many mobile phones there are in the world, you&#8217;d realise the figure&#8217;s 1%, not 2%.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe it is at 2%.... especially when each month the figures for online video is outdoing the month before... Wait till 3 and 4g mobiles become the norm..

&quot;There are currently four* billion mobile phones in use worldwide and there are almost seven billion people. Mobiles have exceeded the number of TVs and computers and unlike those devices, mobiles are carried everywhere and are hardly ever turned off. Achieving this milestone confirms there is continued solid demand in the mobile industry and it puts the global market on a path to reach a staggering six* billion connections by 2013. A captive audience of four billion people represents an awesome opportunity for advertisers to grab their attention, even though it&#039;s on a small screen, with well targeted relevant advertising messages via mobile websites.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant believe it is at 2%&#8230;. especially when each month the figures for online video is outdoing the month before&#8230; Wait till 3 and 4g mobiles become the norm..</p>
<p>&#8220;There are currently four* billion mobile phones in use worldwide and there are almost seven billion people. Mobiles have exceeded the number of TVs and computers and unlike those devices, mobiles are carried everywhere and are hardly ever turned off. Achieving this milestone confirms there is continued solid demand in the mobile industry and it puts the global market on a path to reach a staggering six* billion connections by 2013. A captive audience of four billion people represents an awesome opportunity for advertisers to grab their attention, even though it&#8217;s on a small screen, with well targeted relevant advertising messages via mobile websites.&#8221;</p>
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