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		<title>By: Rock Lobster</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-9147</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock Lobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, you&#039;ve not left your contact details...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, you&#8217;ve not left your contact details&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-9138</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking for an artist to do a pretty straight shop front.
I thought i might be able to gainfully employ a graffitti artist to do the job instead of using an established firm.
Please email contact details if interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking for an artist to do a pretty straight shop front.<br />
I thought i might be able to gainfully employ a graffitti artist to do the job instead of using an established firm.<br />
Please email contact details if interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Posters</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-8920</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Posters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.graffiti.nsw.gov.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Penalties for graffiti include up to five years in jail, according to the NSW government.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.graffiti.nsw.gov.au/" rel="nofollow">Penalties for graffiti include up to five years in jail, according to the NSW government.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ingest the passion &#171; In the Dough</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-8712</link>
		<dc:creator>Ingest the passion &#171; In the Dough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like honesty. Sincerity is the name of the game, the adage of our ad-age. Agencies like Vizeum using street graffitti to publicise their arrival into the Sydney &amp; Melbourne media scene is frankly, an old and tired [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like honesty. Sincerity is the name of the game, the adage of our ad-age. Agencies like Vizeum using street graffitti to publicise their arrival into the Sydney &amp; Melbourne media scene is frankly, an old and tired [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil S</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-8688</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they only graffiti in front of the offices of other Media agencies ?? Interesting placement - don&#039;t they know that most clients don&#039;t bother to leave their offices anymore... or was this an even more subtle attempt at recruitment ...? 
Confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did they only graffiti in front of the offices of other Media agencies ?? Interesting placement &#8211; don&#8217;t they know that most clients don&#8217;t bother to leave their offices anymore&#8230; or was this an even more subtle attempt at recruitment &#8230;?<br />
Confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Great Strategy</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-8686</link>
		<dc:creator>Great Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL I wanted to read this article because I can&#039;t believe the ad agency would claim responsibility for an illegal act! If you want to challenge traditional media and strategies, take a page from Perez Hilton and John Mayer: http://greatstrategy.blogspot.com/2009/06/twittering-up-your-profile-perez-hilton.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL I wanted to read this article because I can&#8217;t believe the ad agency would claim responsibility for an illegal act! If you want to challenge traditional media and strategies, take a page from Perez Hilton and John Mayer: <a href="http://greatstrategy.blogspot.com/2009/06/twittering-up-your-profile-perez-hilton.html" rel="nofollow">http://greatstrategy.blogspot......ilton.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doughnuts</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-8659</link>
		<dc:creator>Doughnuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must take my hat off to Vizeum, this is a genius way to attract graffiti crews to do some work on the walls of your offices. And don&#039;t worry no need to pay them, also they won&#039;t be taking credit for it so feel free to spin it as you wish. Do note they may be more legitimate in their approach and wish to use spray paint over chalk.

You clearly know what you are doing, very imaginative.

EPIC FAIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must take my hat off to Vizeum, this is a genius way to attract graffiti crews to do some work on the walls of your offices. And don&#8217;t worry no need to pay them, also they won&#8217;t be taking credit for it so feel free to spin it as you wish. Do note they may be more legitimate in their approach and wish to use spray paint over chalk.</p>
<p>You clearly know what you are doing, very imaginative.</p>
<p>EPIC FAIL.</p>
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		<title>By: malbino</title>
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		<dc:creator>malbino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that Green Day thinks it’s cool to graffiti the streets of Sydney? One of the world’s biggest bands has enough marketing dollars to buy any billboard in Sydney it wants. In today’s advertising market it could probably buy all of them. 
The answer is simple. Green Day wants to project an edgy image and someone at an advertising agency has thought there’s no better way to do that than getting out the spray paint and putting their advertising message up next to graffiti tags. 

Not that Green Day have actually done this in person, no, instead they have paid someone to do the “graffiti” for them. And they haven’t come up with anything edgy, they have just paid to have the Green Day album cover for 21st Century Breakdown reproduced. A pretty straightforward way of achieving free (or close to free )advertising in a cool urban setting. Or so someone obviously thinks. 

According to an article in the Sydney Morning Herald, Warner Music’s defense is that it paid someone who they thought had permission to do so, a “legal graffiti” company who can paint in designated spots. That is, they thought that a company has rights to spray paint ads on Sydney’s walls and to spray stencils on skate parks. 

You have to wonder at this. Right or wrong the argument for legal graffiti locations is that if Council designates spots where graffiti is allowed it will not only encourage graffiti with a higher aesthetic value it will also lower the incidence of graffiti on other locations where it defaces public and private property. 

Councils do not allocate designated locations for graffiti so multi millionaire bands can advertise their albums on them. 

And is it possible that anyone with any common sense thought otherwise? If it is legal to spray paint your advertising message all over the streets of Sydney why isn’t everyone doing it? With the economic downturn there are any number of companies that are struggling to make budget and marketing budgets are getting squeezed. If this was legal every marketer worth their salt would be in on the act. 

If Warner Music had bought eight standard inner city billboard locations across Sydney the cost would be in excess of $200,000 a month. One suspects that the “legal graffiti” company isn’t being paid $200,000. And one also suspects that the “legal graffiti” company isn’t passing on any of the money it collected from Warner Music to the City of Sydney or Waverley Council. 

If Waverley Council and the City of Sydney don’t have an express prohibition on this use of designated graffiti areas for third party advertising could they please let us know. We would also very much like to use a spray can on the streets of Sydney to promote our website and we promise to be arty when doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that Green Day thinks it’s cool to graffiti the streets of Sydney? One of the world’s biggest bands has enough marketing dollars to buy any billboard in Sydney it wants. In today’s advertising market it could probably buy all of them.<br />
The answer is simple. Green Day wants to project an edgy image and someone at an advertising agency has thought there’s no better way to do that than getting out the spray paint and putting their advertising message up next to graffiti tags. </p>
<p>Not that Green Day have actually done this in person, no, instead they have paid someone to do the “graffiti” for them. And they haven’t come up with anything edgy, they have just paid to have the Green Day album cover for 21st Century Breakdown reproduced. A pretty straightforward way of achieving free (or close to free )advertising in a cool urban setting. Or so someone obviously thinks. </p>
<p>According to an article in the Sydney Morning Herald, Warner Music’s defense is that it paid someone who they thought had permission to do so, a “legal graffiti” company who can paint in designated spots. That is, they thought that a company has rights to spray paint ads on Sydney’s walls and to spray stencils on skate parks. </p>
<p>You have to wonder at this. Right or wrong the argument for legal graffiti locations is that if Council designates spots where graffiti is allowed it will not only encourage graffiti with a higher aesthetic value it will also lower the incidence of graffiti on other locations where it defaces public and private property. </p>
<p>Councils do not allocate designated locations for graffiti so multi millionaire bands can advertise their albums on them. </p>
<p>And is it possible that anyone with any common sense thought otherwise? If it is legal to spray paint your advertising message all over the streets of Sydney why isn’t everyone doing it? With the economic downturn there are any number of companies that are struggling to make budget and marketing budgets are getting squeezed. If this was legal every marketer worth their salt would be in on the act. </p>
<p>If Warner Music had bought eight standard inner city billboard locations across Sydney the cost would be in excess of $200,000 a month. One suspects that the “legal graffiti” company isn’t being paid $200,000. And one also suspects that the “legal graffiti” company isn’t passing on any of the money it collected from Warner Music to the City of Sydney or Waverley Council. </p>
<p>If Waverley Council and the City of Sydney don’t have an express prohibition on this use of designated graffiti areas for third party advertising could they please let us know. We would also very much like to use a spray can on the streets of Sydney to promote our website and we promise to be arty when doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: J.J. Abums</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.J. Abums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way, how long until someone chalks next to their chalk with some clever message? isnt that what usually happens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, how long until someone chalks next to their chalk with some clever message? isnt that what usually happens?</p>
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		<title>By: Rock Lobster</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-8616</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock Lobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASBO = Anti Social Behaviour Order

http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/512410/ 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Social_Behaviour_Order</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASBO = Anti Social Behaviour Order</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/512410/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/512410/</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Social_Behaviour_Order" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.....iour_Order</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s an ASBO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s an ASBO?</p>
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		<title>By: Rock Lobster</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/vizeum-were-graffiti-ing-the-streets-of-sydney-and-melbourne-6767#comment-8613</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock Lobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kevin macmillan

yes, there is a code of conduct on the streets between people who put up posters, and graffiti artists. it&#039;s an unwritten law. 

Rule #2 : Don&#039;t put a poster over a poster that still has a current date. You must wait till the date has past till covering up a poster. 

although in Sydney, this doesn&#039;t apply. London is a much better city for this. Lots of opportunity. 

My own personal tip is to ride a push bike, therefore you can outrun cops on foot, and go where cars can&#039;t go.  That rule has saved me many ASBO&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kevin macmillan</p>
<p>yes, there is a code of conduct on the streets between people who put up posters, and graffiti artists. it&#8217;s an unwritten law. </p>
<p>Rule #2 : Don&#8217;t put a poster over a poster that still has a current date. You must wait till the date has past till covering up a poster. </p>
<p>although in Sydney, this doesn&#8217;t apply. London is a much better city for this. Lots of opportunity. </p>
<p>My own personal tip is to ride a push bike, therefore you can outrun cops on foot, and go where cars can&#8217;t go.  That rule has saved me many ASBO&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer graffiti over adverts myself. Death to advertising.</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WFT? We now have agencies declaring that they will break the law and apply graffiti? Those agencies should be slammed with as high a fine as legally possible for every single piece of graffiti.

It&#039;s not just about saying &#039;Oh, it&#039;s only a chalk stencil, it will wash off&#039; – it&#039;s about not defacing streets and walls and buildings in the first place.

The councils should totally slam these wankers for every dollar they can, AND order the agency to remove the graffiti - which would be great footage for the evening news, as part of the council&#039;s effort to make sure the fine and clean-up it becomes news in order to shame both the agency and the client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WFT? We now have agencies declaring that they will break the law and apply graffiti? Those agencies should be slammed with as high a fine as legally possible for every single piece of graffiti.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just about saying &#8216;Oh, it&#8217;s only a chalk stencil, it will wash off&#8217; – it&#8217;s about not defacing streets and walls and buildings in the first place.</p>
<p>The councils should totally slam these wankers for every dollar they can, AND order the agency to remove the graffiti &#8211; which would be great footage for the evening news, as part of the council&#8217;s effort to make sure the fine and clean-up it becomes news in order to shame both the agency and the client.</p>
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		<title>By: Little n</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How embarrassing. Like my friend said:  &quot;Big corporations using graffiti is both embarrassing to them and insulting to actual artists. No cred earned for that campaign.&quot;

On the other side it&#039;s a shame that bill postering and chalking are seen as graffiti and punishable by law. Sydney is claiming that it wants more cultural draw but these laws strips color and culture from the city</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How embarrassing. Like my friend said:  &#8220;Big corporations using graffiti is both embarrassing to them and insulting to actual artists. No cred earned for that campaign.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the other side it&#8217;s a shame that bill postering and chalking are seen as graffiti and punishable by law. Sydney is claiming that it wants more cultural draw but these laws strips color and culture from the city</p>
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