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	<title>Comments on: Where there&#8217;s smoke there&#8217;s no fire for McDonald&#8217;s outdoor ad</title>
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		<title>By: McDonald&#8217;s rolls the dice and it&#8217;s free parking for all - mUmBRELLA</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-27176</link>
		<dc:creator>McDonald&#8217;s rolls the dice and it&#8217;s free parking for all - mUmBRELLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last time Mumbrella reviewed a McDonald&#8217;s ad in Canada, it was lukewarm to say the least. But its latest effort gets points for the freebie factor and the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Outdoor Avenger</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-25918</link>
		<dc:creator>Outdoor Avenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dempsey, last I looked, outdoor advertising is a broadcast medium, not a narrowcast. If all you are targeting is a few people sitting at a bus stop picking their nose, then why have the signage road side? If you are not using bus shelters and the like to attract people in cars you are pissing your money up against the wall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dempsey, last I looked, outdoor advertising is a broadcast medium, not a narrowcast. If all you are targeting is a few people sitting at a bus stop picking their nose, then why have the signage road side? If you are not using bus shelters and the like to attract people in cars you are pissing your money up against the wall</p>
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		<title>By: Dempsey</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-25414</link>
		<dc:creator>Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avenger, I think  you need know what you are talking about prior to spouting outdoor ad metrics - these are NOT billboards, they are sidewalk transits and as such do not have the same rules as billboards. The rules are not the same for metro sidewalks and bus stops. Though you may not like the creative nor the execution the break through strategy is spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avenger, I think  you need know what you are talking about prior to spouting outdoor ad metrics &#8211; these are NOT billboards, they are sidewalk transits and as such do not have the same rules as billboards. The rules are not the same for metro sidewalks and bus stops. Though you may not like the creative nor the execution the break through strategy is spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Grrr</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24930</link>
		<dc:creator>Grrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF? This story is such a ridiculous beat-up. It&#039;s a great idea and I don&#039;t see any evidence of people &quot;wondering if they should call the fire brigade&quot; or even &quot;looking somewhat perturbed, not knowing if the ad is on fire.&quot; It&#039;s a bus stop. People some and go.

Give us a break mumbrella. Report the facts. Don&#039;t sensationalise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF? This story is such a ridiculous beat-up. It&#8217;s a great idea and I don&#8217;t see any evidence of people &#8220;wondering if they should call the fire brigade&#8221; or even &#8220;looking somewhat perturbed, not knowing if the ad is on fire.&#8221; It&#8217;s a bus stop. People some and go.</p>
<p>Give us a break mumbrella. Report the facts. Don&#8217;t sensationalise.</p>
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		<title>By: bearit</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24852</link>
		<dc:creator>bearit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shock horror. All of that footage captures people actually looking at it - did someone ask the guy whether he thought it was on fire or is that just a piece of guess work. Hate to think that people actually took notice of a piece of communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shock horror. All of that footage captures people actually looking at it &#8211; did someone ask the guy whether he thought it was on fire or is that just a piece of guess work. Hate to think that people actually took notice of a piece of communication.</p>
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		<title>By: GORGAN</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24805</link>
		<dc:creator>GORGAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or does the smoke make it look more like steaming toxic waste than a warm coffee???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or does the smoke make it look more like steaming toxic waste than a warm coffee???</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Beaupeurt</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24799</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Beaupeurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An extractor fan is a great idea, but then you&#039;d lose the coincidental, &#039;smoky arch&#039; that appears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An extractor fan is a great idea, but then you&#8217;d lose the coincidental, &#8216;smoky arch&#8217; that appears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24798</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow you guys are a tough audience.

I think the McDonald&#039;s piece is fab.

My negatives firstly - not sure if the headline is the best possible headline to support the creative - something a little more alluring and emotive would have been nice.
And yeah, there is always going to be a danger that steam or the cup resembles something else.

But many positives - A fantastic use of media and creative. Seasonality, long dwell times, subtle messaging and the best part, the slow reveal of the headline.
I def. applaud their innovation

Finally, on viewing the video (yeah I know they edit the best responses), the grab of the female commuter looking and smiling is gold - that moment of engagement we all hope for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow you guys are a tough audience.</p>
<p>I think the McDonald&#8217;s piece is fab.</p>
<p>My negatives firstly &#8211; not sure if the headline is the best possible headline to support the creative &#8211; something a little more alluring and emotive would have been nice.<br />
And yeah, there is always going to be a danger that steam or the cup resembles something else.</p>
<p>But many positives &#8211; A fantastic use of media and creative. Seasonality, long dwell times, subtle messaging and the best part, the slow reveal of the headline.<br />
I def. applaud their innovation</p>
<p>Finally, on viewing the video (yeah I know they edit the best responses), the grab of the female commuter looking and smiling is gold &#8211; that moment of engagement we all hope for.</p>
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		<title>By: Outdoor Avenger</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24797</link>
		<dc:creator>Outdoor Avenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What seems to be lost here is the fact that outdoor is a broadcast format. To be used effectively the message needs communicate at maximum distance in 3 seconds to motorists travelling at speed and pedestrians. 

McDonalds have completely missed out on the opportunity to communicate to all the passing motorists due to the size of the font and brand.

AERO have done well with the size of their branding but how many people really noticed the bubbles. None of the people in the clip!

Another example of creative agencies trying to be too clever and hoping to win awards. What they have failed to do is understanding the Outdoor format. To maximise your clients exposure and impact, reduce the amount of text,  increase the size of the brand and get clever with copy. 

We are only discussing these ads because no doubt they were submitted to the media publications, not because the general public were overwhelmed with the innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What seems to be lost here is the fact that outdoor is a broadcast format. To be used effectively the message needs communicate at maximum distance in 3 seconds to motorists travelling at speed and pedestrians. </p>
<p>McDonalds have completely missed out on the opportunity to communicate to all the passing motorists due to the size of the font and brand.</p>
<p>AERO have done well with the size of their branding but how many people really noticed the bubbles. None of the people in the clip!</p>
<p>Another example of creative agencies trying to be too clever and hoping to win awards. What they have failed to do is understanding the Outdoor format. To maximise your clients exposure and impact, reduce the amount of text,  increase the size of the brand and get clever with copy. </p>
<p>We are only discussing these ads because no doubt they were submitted to the media publications, not because the general public were overwhelmed with the innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jooja</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24791</link>
		<dc:creator>Jooja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic, fantastic concept!  A very exciting innovation from JCDecaux (so, how do you pronounce that anyway?).

By the way, by the way, how good are the Ting Tings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic, fantastic concept!  A very exciting innovation from JCDecaux (so, how do you pronounce that anyway?).</p>
<p>By the way, by the way, how good are the Ting Tings?</p>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24788</link>
		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like it. It&#039;s innovative and eye catching and even if they only do a few special builds it has still caught the attention of the trade press if nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like it. It&#8217;s innovative and eye catching and even if they only do a few special builds it has still caught the attention of the trade press if nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: version</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24779</link>
		<dc:creator>version</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These things are a bit of gimmick.  I&#039;m guessing 10 or 20 special builds for Aero out of a total 600 or so panels across 5 caps.  Difficult to believe such a small presence would make any type of meaningful difference to metrics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These things are a bit of gimmick.  I&#8217;m guessing 10 or 20 special builds for Aero out of a total 600 or so panels across 5 caps.  Difficult to believe such a small presence would make any type of meaningful difference to metrics.</p>
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		<title>By: bradeldridge</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24773</link>
		<dc:creator>bradeldridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks great for the first 3 or 4 seconds. They just needed an extractor fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks great for the first 3 or 4 seconds. They just needed an extractor fan.</p>
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		<title>By: rashna</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24769</link>
		<dc:creator>rashna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with tama. the association is not quite there. looking at that steam does not make me think of hot coffee. however the aero ad works beautifully</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with tama. the association is not quite there. looking at that steam does not make me think of hot coffee. however the aero ad works beautifully</p>
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		<title>By: Tama Leaver</title>
		<link>http://mumbrella.com.au/where-theres-smoke-theres-no-fire-for-mcdonalds-outdoor-ad-14279#comment-24767</link>
		<dc:creator>Tama Leaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest the biggest problem I&#039;d have seeing with the McDonald&#039;s ad is that the cup is roughly the same colour as a cigarette filter, so when the smoke comes out it looks more like the filter stub than a cup of coffee - not an association I&#039;d risk making!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest the biggest problem I&#8217;d have seeing with the McDonald&#8217;s ad is that the cup is roughly the same colour as a cigarette filter, so when the smoke comes out it looks more like the filter stub than a cup of coffee &#8211; not an association I&#8217;d risk making!</p>
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