Digital douchebags and a lesson in when not to cc everybody
This is the reason Dr Mumbo loves group emails. Remember Simon Van Wyk’s much dicussed Mumbrella guest posting on what’s wrong with the digital agency scene? It seems to have generated quite a reaction from the Creative Social group which consists of local digital creatives, if the correspondence that has fallen into Dr Mumbo’s hands is anything to go by. Read on…
From: Mike Zederberg
To: everybody@creativesocial
Sent: Thu Aug 27 08:39:31 2009
Subject: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
Hi all,
Yes, it’s that time again, next week is the First Tuesday of the month, and so time for Creative Social.
This month Mike Crebar and the guys at PUSHER have very kindly offered to host it.
So if you’re keen to see the most recent leading edge work being done by global agencies, see where Creative Social is going, or just catch up with Daniele, RSVP to Marion and myself now!
Cheers
Mike
MIKE ZEEDERBERG | MANAGING DIRECTOR
PROFERO SYDNEY | 220A GLENMORE RD, SYDNEY 2021, AUSTRALIA
From: Ashley Ringrose
To: everybody@creativesocial
Sent: Thu Aug 27 16:04:32 2009
Subject: re: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
Did we open the invite to the guy from Hothouse? Forgot his name simon van der Vyk or something
The dude was all talk on mumbrella but a no show last 2 times
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SOAP Creative
From: Ashadi Hopper
Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2009 4:18 PM
To: Ashley Ringrose
Cc: everybody@creativesocial
Subject: Re: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
Ash – Send flowers with a hope to see you soon card.
Sent from my iPhone
From: Ashley Ringrose
Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2009 4:20 PM
To: Ashadi Hopper
Cc everybody@creativesocial
Subject: RE: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
I don’t want to date him i want to see for myself if he’s a douchebag in real life as well J
From: Matt Griffin
To: ‘Ashley Ringrose’
Cc: ; everybody@creativesocial
Sent: Thu Aug 27 16:28:44 2009
Subject: RE: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
I’m sure he’s gagging to come along now.
Matt Griffin
Managing Director
Deepend
From: Ashley Ringrose <ashley@soapcreative.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:33:52 +1000
To: Matthew Griffen
Cc: <everybody@creativesocial
Subject: RE: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
I’m joking guys. We did send him a nice invite and I invited him from his rant on Mumbrella but was snubbed.
Funny he wants to speak for the industry but not to it.
Ashley Ringrose
From: Simon Van Wyk
Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2009 4:42 PM
To: Ashley Ringrose
Cc: everybody@creativesocial
Subject: Re: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
Got it thanks. Will be at Burning Man next week. Can’t attend sorry.
Sent from my iPhone
From: Ashley Ringrose [mailto:ashley@soapcreative.com]
Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2009 4:55 PM
To: Simon Van Wyk
Cc: everybody@creativesocial
Subject: RE: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
Hey Simon,
To back up my claims and not just be another angry hater you actually never replied to my 2 comments on Creative Social?
https://mumbrella.com.au/guest-posting-interactive-agencies-need-to-stop-being-digital-agencies-3612
the douchebag comment comes from you speaking for our industry but never wanting to talk to any of us? What’s up with that? We’re all busy but make 2hrs of time every few months. The comment was out of line though sorry about that.
Cheers,
Ashley Ringrose
From: Kevin Ferry, Bullseye
To: Ashley Ringrose; Simon Van Wyk
Cc: everybody@creativesocial
Sent: Thu Aug 27 17:16:00 2009
Subject: RE: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
I’m coming I’m not a douchebag but I can be a punchbag if anyone wants to let of a bit of steam
‘douchebag’ I love that phrase I’m sure Simon isn’t liking it at the mo, but hey we’re all old enough and ugly enough to take it
Shit …Simon I’m not saying your ugly…I’m sure you’re very handsome 😉
K
From: Simon Van Wyk
To: Ashley Ringrose <ashley@soapcreative.com>
Cc: <everybody@creativesocial
Sent: Thu Aug 27 20:27:40 2009
Subject: Re: Creative Social Next Tuesday 1st of September
Hi,
Mmm not sure where the douchebag comment is and I’m certainly not going to read all that stuff again 🙂 No offence taken BTW.
Unfortunately I’m on holiday from tomorrow and back in three weeks.
I’ve been a little busy of late but will make a commitment to attend the next one. I used to have the kids on Tuesday nights. It’s moved to Monday so I’ll commit to making the next.
Let’s have the discussion then.
SIMON
Gotta go to this. Should be loads of fun!
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haha thanks for posting Tim, I’ve sorted this out with Simon post this. He’ll be attending one of the Creative Socials at least once at some time.
Comment still stands though. You can’t post a rant that is meant to represent our industry and not speak to that industry about it 🙂
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Must check that group email address, i can’t remember adding Tim onto it 🙂
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All looks a little silly to me
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Those last two comments would have been mildly amusing without emoticons. Smiley faces at the end of any sentence are the social media equivalent of canned-laughter in a sitcom… I can feel myself boiling over…
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haha, hilarious.
Hey Tim, why can’t you post comments on Simon’s original post?
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You’d think that people who work in this industry would be a little more adept with their digital communication skills.
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Hi Simon,
Comments close on old postings after (I think) 45 or maybe 60 days.
Cheers,
Tim
This has made my Friday. Thanks guys.
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Watched the conversation unfold yesterday with much amusement.
Ash – hopefully you’ve extracted the foot out of your mouth..
Mike – the VJ lads and I have had a chat about starting up a Creative Social in Melbourne town. Will drop you a non-group email about it..
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Is this “douchegate” ?
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Mumbrella is fast becoming my favourite place to come for amusing industry content….
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We definitely need badges made for Tuesday’s social now, saying-
FELLOW DOUCHEBAG
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I like smiley faces – sitcom laughter or not – It’s anonymous postings where people only post their first names with no links to themselves that make ME boil over… 🙂
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Bugger the parade. It’s exhausting just thinking about a roomful of consensus seekers hunting the like-minded. Booorrrring. Let’s get back to the main game of ragging ad agencies.
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Maybe not the day to have a go at B&T for spelling…
“Remember Simon Van Wyk’s much dicussed …”
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Heather wins.
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Where does one get douche-shoes to go with the douche-bag for the next soiree?
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Is this Myspace or something?
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Ash what makes you think that if someone doesn’t attend an event you are involved with that they aren’t engaging with the industry? Get your head out of your arse and realise how many events for the industry there are each month. Back to the mac screen ash til the social skills are up to par, and bravo to simon for not biting back.
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Ash on a mac?!? Maybe in 2001. He changed his OS years ago but he still causes a stir on the emails. This is classic Ringrose – never a dull moment at soap and that’s how we like it.
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And here I was thinking I was going to get into trouble for one of those “anonymous postings where people only post their first names with no links to themselves”. Those people really do have no idea.
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Bla bla bla who cares.
Your all a bunch of hypocritical douchebags who dont have the balls to say what you all really think of each other. End.
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im 12 years and wat is this?
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