Stop flushing money down the toilet with your marketing technology investment
TrinityP3's Anton Buchner loves customer relationship management (CRM), but only when it's done well. Here, he does some calculations to help marketers stop 'flushing money down the toilet'.
Clicking into Mumbrella, I read the headline: ‘Mark Lollback’s big regret as McDonald’s CMO: Flushing ‘$3m down the toilet’ on Salesforce‘. He was speaking as part of a session moderated by Mi3’s Paul McIntyre, at The Future of TV Advertising conference held recently in Sydney.
Now I’m not one to rip into customer relationship management (CRM) technology for the sake of bashing it.
I love direct-to-consumer marketing, or CRM, when it’s done well.
And by well, I mean when it has been strategically identified as to its role in helping a client improve its marketing.
For McDonald’s Australia, or any client for that matter, an ROI business case (amongst other assessments) should have been done, to show how the new CRM program could deliver incremental profit over a period of time with specific segments of consumers. Ideally breaking even within three years, and then ROI positive thereafter.

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The key word in all of this is “incremental”. So by doing something extra – and in Macca’s case spending $3m – how many extra burgers, fries, and other products would they need to sell in order to become ROI positive?
Breaking even in 34 years!
If you’ve never done a ROI calculation for a CRM program, then here’s what you do.
You take all the products on the menu and identify the marginal contribution (MC) amount (profit) for each product.
For example, here are some retail prices for McDonald’s products as of March, 2020.
- Big Mac Meal: $10.30
- McFeast burger only: $6.95
- Crispy Chicken Caesar McWrap: $7.80
- Cheesy Toasty: $4
- Bacon and Egg McMuffin: $4.45
- Frozen Coke: $1
- Small flat white: $3
But you’d need to calculate the MC for each product.
Salesforce would have been privy to this information. I’ll just take a blanket guess and apply an average of 25%.
Hence the MC of the products above would be:
- Big Mac Meal: $2.58
- McFeast burger only: $1.74
- Crispy Chicken Caesar McWrap: $1.95
- Cheesy Toasty: $1
- Bacon and Egg McMuffin: $1.11
- Frozen Coke: $0.25
- Small flat white: $0.75
You can then identify the segment of customers on the database that you want to affect.
Let’s assume Macca’s acquired 1m consumers to its database. Now of course there are acquisition costs that need to be factored into acquiring people onto the database, and then an annual churn rate would need to be factored in for each year of CRM activity.
But if we then assume out of the 1m consumers, Macca’s could affect 10% of them with CRM activity. Then they could affect 100,000 consumers per year.
You’d have to identify what these 100,000 consumer’s current annual purchase value is, calculated on their total product purchases per year multiplied by the MC rates of the products purchased. And then work out a projected incremental value. Maybe projected on a 2% annual shift.
As a pure example, let’s assume a medium to heavy level consumer purchases a Big Mac Meal every three weeks. Hence roughly 17 times a year. Therefore their total value is 17 x $2.58 = $43.86.
If we got an average 2% shift in value, then we would be generating an incremental $0.88 per year from each consumer ($43.86 x 2%).
Assuming we could impact 100,000 consumers like this then Macca’s could generate, per year, an incremental 100,000 x $0.88 = $88,000.
Spending $3m means you’d break even in 34 years.
Or if the objective was to get them to buy one more Big Mac meal a year, then factoring in an incremental $2.58 multiplied by 100,000 consumers, then it equates to $258,000.
Even if Macca’s had 5m consumers on their database and could impact 500,000 of them like this (which is bloody hard), then they would only generate an incremental 500,000 x $0.88 = $440,000. That would mean breaking even in seven years.
Now in the above simplified calculations, I’ve assumed that the $3m figure that Mark Lollback mentioned was a total marketing spend, but of course it’s probably only the cost for Salesforce.
As mentioned, you’d need to factor in the cost (and yearly projected database growth in the number of consumers) to acquire 5m people onto the database, the annual churn rate, and the actual cost of the CRM activity to generate the purchasing shift, to get a total spend figure (investment).
I’d hate to guess this number.
Then you could work out a relatively accurate ROI figure (ie: for every $1 spent, how much incremental return are you making?)
Or as an ROI % (incremental gain minus the cost of investment, divided by the cost of investment).
For the above rough calculations, to spend $3m and make $88,000; $258,000 or $440,000, then it’s pretty sick. It would take Macca’s an eon to achieve anything near to a positive ROI.
Anton Buchner is a senior consultant at TrinityP3
Sometimes companies spend money on things that dont have a proper return on investment.
Wow.
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Are you saying that the average person who owns or runs a business doesn’t understand this basic? In short:
How much do I need to sell to make a profit?
If this is true, no wonder so many go to the wall.
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Hi David,
Thanks for your comment.
They may have understood it, yet may have made the decision on other factors such as ‘everybody else is talking CRM/targeting/1:1/personalisation so we’d better jump on board’. Or it may have been in the global business case to ‘get to know consumers better’ and AUSTRALIA may have been a test bed. Who knows. But I’ve assessed many such programs, data-driven activity, and MarTech installations post implementation. And invariably it’s the same answer. A simple ROI was never projected nor used throughout decision making. That seems to have been echoed by the ex-CMO
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