The type of domestic violence you can still joke about on Australian television

Why isn’t this bigger news? I’m sick of the bogan feminists ruining it for everyone else.

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/

http://www.medicaldaily.com/do.....ior-290662

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVHnZX8E50

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But domestic violence against men doesn’t exist and only woman can be victims, that’s not only a concept supported by the media it’s also supported by the Government.

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Disgusting behaviour, these women should be fired. Encouraging domestic violence is a ridiculous thing to do and for them to try and laugh at it shows not only that they don’t know how damaging and life destroying it is, but there is also deep routed sexism present on this tv channel and its staff.

If someone said that about female victims, there would be an uproar but because its a man its somehow ok ? Sorry but its not.

Sort it out Australia.

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One day, not too far from now, women will be called to account for this disgusting, bullying, manipulative, cowardice behaviour. For now, batten down the hatches and keep a record of all comings and goings.

2016 will be an interesting year.

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‘Bogan feminists’ is the best way to describe this malaise. But given this received far less outrage than Leo Burnett hiring five men is a travesty. It’s not even on the front page of Mumbrella.

What is wrong with this earth, where it’s fine to condone physically assaulting a male partner yet hiring men is completely wrong

Why does no woman have an opinion on this?

Disgusting.

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There is nothing funny about domestic violence against anyone. Clearly the people participating in this segment need to educate themselves regarding those bits of the domestic violence problem that are rarely addressed by our feminist-led politicians and media. Helpful guy that I am, I suggest that they start here:

http://www.fighting4fair.com/u.....-violence/
http://www.fighting4fair.com/u.....and-girls/
http://www.fighting4fair.com/u.....tatistics/

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Oh look, it’s the malestream commenters out in force!

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Those 1 in 3 statistics are BS. Yes the stats are “real”, albeit misleading. People fail to recognise the perpetrators of violence against men are often OTHER men. Very rarely is the perpetrator a female.

Women are allowed to joke about violence against men – the dominant majority – because “reverse sexism” DOES. NOT. EXIST.
Yes, women joking about & mocking men is funny. As is People of Colour joking about white people. As is disabled people joking about able people. White straight men: Check your privilege!

MRA’s- Cry me a river, big enough to swim in, it’s going to be a hot week.

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What a ridiculous thing to say… You are a reverse bigot.

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‘Very rarely is the perpetrator a female.’

Perhaps you should do some research and then explain how more than 40 men, women and children died in 2015 in domestic situations at the hands of a woman.

Domestic violence has no gender.

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As a male victim of domestic violence at the hands of a woman I find the comments from people like Feminazi and Ridiculous! as offensive as those of Sylvia Jeffreys, and her co-presenters who laughed along with her. Ridiculous! – did the violence perpetrated against me not exist? Because it felt very real to me. And Feminazi, were the injuries I suffered less of an issue because I am a man? Domestic violence of any kind is not a joke and I am staggered to think that people think I should not speak out about this issue simply because I am a “white, straight man”.

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Most domestic violence is caused by women but most of it is under-reported. And no thanks to the feminists and left-wing mouthpieces you get blame apportioned entirely men.

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Sorry Truthiness, but did you just say…”Most domestic violence is caused by women…”?

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Hey MRA-bro’s, I’ve found some facts for you to read over:

[source:http://www.whiteribbon.org.au/.....out-men%5D

“Around 80% of all violent assaults (including sexual assaults) are carried out by some men against other men and women.”

“Male victims are most likely to be assaulted by other men and most assaults are single incidents in public places (such as in a pub or on the street).”

“74% of physical assaults on men have been carried out by male strangers.”

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Yep, it’s us pesky women always being so damn demanding – we’re just asking for a bashing, aren’t we Truthiness?

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What an idiot ridiculous. What male privilege are you talking about you fool. The privilage to be made fun of as we suffer dv or the privilege to go to prison if assualted by a woman, or the privilege to have false accusations of child abuse and dv and have our lives turned upside down because some woman can’t deal with her emotions. Fuck it, women get what they ask for. Most men try to be stand up decent men, and only flip when evil women fight unfair. Let’s call a spade a spade, and a woman an abuser if that’s what she is

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Unfortunately for men, the problem apparently doesn’t exist, which is why there are no men’s shelters and men aren’t allowed to protect themselves in the domestic violence ‘victims room’ at court.

@Whatthe depends if you want to broaden the term ‘domestic violence’ to what the term legally defines.

Here are some of behaviours deemed to be ‘domestic violence’:

(1) Examples of physical violence include:

• Being kicked, punched, pinched, slapped, choked and bitten
• Use or threats of use of ‘weapons’ including knives and irons
• Being scalded or poisoned
• Objects being thrown
• Violence against family members or pets

(2) Examples of isolation:

• Limiting outside involvement such as family, friends and work colleagues
• Not allowing any activity outside the home that does not include her or him
• Constant checking up on your whereabouts

(3) Examples of verbal abuse:

• Constant yelling and shouting
• Verbal humiliation either in private or in company
• Constantly being laughed at and being made fun of
• Blaming you for their own failures

(4) Examples of threatening behaviour:

• The threat of violence
• The threat of use of ‘weapons’ including knives and irons
• The threat of use of violence against family members or pets
• Threatening to use extended family members to attack you
• Destroying personal items
• Threatening to tell the police that you are the person committing the domestic abuse
• Threatening to remove your children

(5) Examples of emotional and psychological abuse:

• Intimidation
• Withholding affection
• Turning your children and friends against you
• Being stopped from seeing friends or relatives
• Constantly being insulted, including in front of others
• Repeatedly being belittled
• Keeping you awake/stopping you sleeping
• Excessive contact, for example stalking
• Using social media sites to intimidate you (such as Facebook and Twitter)
• Wilfully stopping fathers from seeing their children by breaching court orders

(6) Examples of power and control:

Abusers believe they have a right to control their partners by:

• Telling them what to do and expecting obedience
• Telling you, you will never see your children again if you leave
• Using force to maintain power and control
• Not accepting responsibility for the abuse – not their fault
• Continual and purposeful breach of family court orders
• Forced marriage

(7) Examples of financial abuse:

• Totally controlling the family income
• Not allowing you to spend any money unless ‘permitted’
• Making you account for every pound you spend
• Running up huge bills such as credit/store cards in your name
• Purposely defaulting on payments

(8) Examples of sexual abuse:

• Sexual harassment/pressure
• Forcing sex after physical assaults
• Sexually degrading language
• Rape

(9) Examples of false allegations:

• Telling the police that you are the one committing the domestic abuse when it is the other way around
• Telling friends, families, your employer and others such as sports clubs that you are the one committing the domestic abuse
• False allegations of another ‘crime’ such as abusing children

(10) Examples of being stalked:

Stalkers will often use multiple and differing methods to harass their victims. Stalking can consist of any type of behaviour such as:

following you to and from work
checking your email and phone calls
regularly sending gifts
making unwanted or malicious communication
damaging property or clothes
physical or sexual assault

Before you attack me, I’m not saying violence against women doesn’t exist. I am however saying violence against men exists and women, knowingly or unknowingly perpetrate the majority of this.

Please note all of the above definitions constitute ‘violence’ when it comes to the law.

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I’m trying to look at this impartially. On one hand, the joke was intended to be a detriment to the not-so-great acts of this guy. At the same time, had the gender roles been reversed we’d have seen a massive backlash over it, possibly even people fired or relegated to backstage roles on the show.

On the balance of things, domestic violence is a blight on society, and should never be made fun of. I think Sylvia Jeffreys should be sanctioned in some way, and offer a public apology for her misguided words (who knows, maybe she already has, this video seems to be a few days old).

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IMO it’s easier to understand female violence by separating violence into yin and yang, Females are more likely to perpetrate violence in a very yin way by, for example, withholding sex, belittling a man, turning the children against their father. This, I would say, is likely to lead a man to desperate measures and he may not have the emotional skills to deal with the covert violence. In that case physical, yang, violence ensues.

It takes two to tango.

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Women are the perpetrators in 52% of child murders (AIC 2015, based on 10yrs of NHMP&NCIS homicide data). But *SURE* [sarcasm], women can’t be EVER be violent at all. Oh, no…. They only EVER act in self defense. Just the same as they do against all those innocent children.

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40% of all DV homicide victims are males. But remember “domestic violence, which is just violence against women” as our PM calls it. Who cares about dead men, boys, fathers, brothers, uncles, friends. They’re just males. It’s women’s votes they need.

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“In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm.....MC1854883/

More often than not, violence escalates when men start defending themselves.

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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSps7Efoa1-Uc_yGiWRn4Vcpr4ZOGIzr4jH3J6jyKEBqMapiHL6CRlAdbO9dQ

This picture sums this whole thing up quite nicely and how screwed up the worlds way of thinking is these days

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I wonder what Cindy Gallop would say.

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This needs to be publicly addressed!! It is a perfect example of the societal double standard towards domestic abuse and it is a disgrace!!!

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Typical of the hypocrisy and misandry of feminism.

The Attitude of Women and Society to Violence Against Men by Women
These links show the attitude of women to violence against men. It’ is either condoned – Ya that’s right, you Go Girl, way to be violent, he must have done something to cause it, or humorous like when the women on the US show The Talk found it hilarious when a man’s penis was cut off. When will violence against men get the same attention it deserves as violence against women.

Women think it is hilarious when a man’s penis is cut off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKgwczruOSQ

Here is a show done on ABC that shows women’s attitudes towards violence against men by women. It is especially emphasized by the woman who fist pumps as she walks by a woman hitting a man as if saying – Ya that’s right, you Go Girl, way to be violent! Also, it is so telling that many of the women say, what did he do to make her act that way, like it is impossible for a woman to be violent, and when she is, it is a man’s fault. This is a disgusting and dangerous sexist attitude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks&index=22…

The topic of domestic violence has been at top of mind for many and everywhere in the media with the NFL scandal. Ock TV decided to conduct a social experiment to expose the double standard that exists when it comes to this kind of abuse. Domestic violence is still domestic violence regardless of the victim’s gender, but many of us seem to forget that…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B16dTOWaZU

Domestic abuse advert Mankind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PgH86OyEM

CRAZY Abusive Girlfriend Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlHVANXh-yg

Domestic violence against men in India is not recognized by the law. The general perception is that men cannot be victims of violence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXcrgeq_reg

Female thief vs male thief. Of course the woman is not stopped.
https://www.facebook.com/SoFloAntonio/videos/1202894983085087/

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Studies have shown that women are more controlling and violent that men. Wakw up Australia and deal with the misandry of feminism

Women more Violent and Controlling than Men: Various Studies find
http://www.familylawexpress.co.....find/2366/
https://www.facebook.com/ExposingFeminism

Women more aggressive to partners than men
Domestic Violence Against Men – Women More Likely To Be ‘Intimate Terrorists’ With Controlling Behavior In Relationships
http://www.medicaldaily.com/do.....ior-290662

Myth: Men are ‘vast majority’ of domestic-violence aggressors
http://www.grandforksherald.co.....aggressors

Women more Violent and Controlling than Men: Various Studies find
http://www.familylawexpress.co.....find/2366/
https://www.facebook.com/ExposingFeminism

Women more aggressive to partners than men
Domestic Violence Against Men – Women More Likely To Be ‘Intimate Terrorists’ With Controlling Behavior In Relationships
http://www.medicaldaily.com/do.....ior-290662

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Domestic violence against anyone is wrong and disgusting. Let’s stop just campaigning that DV against Women is wrong, how about DV is Unacceptable. MEN can be and are also victims and as long as we keep up this view that its just a women’s issue it will never be solved.

Come on Channel 9 – how about you do a story about Men and domestic violence, I bet you could find lots of men who are victims who would love to speak to you on your show. LEAD THE CHARGE.

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@Elizabeth

What you have just described there is Victim Blaming at it’s finest.

Are you implying that women withholding sex is a form of abuse? What a disgusting thing to say. Your views reek of internalised misogyny and are toxic.

Sex and a women’s body is something that does not belong to a man – even a husband, EVER.

The assumption that women owe men intermarital sex is a form of slavery. Women don’t owe men shit. I really hope you are a troll because no woman should ever believe what you just wrote.

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What a disgraceful attitude towards men’s violence Sylvia. NO violence towards anyone is a joke or acceptable whether towards women or men or children. That you think the man “deserves” a knock around is the crux of the inequality of this issue. The statistics prove that at least 1/3 of the victims of DV are men. Both my child and I were victims of DV from a woman and we both have mental physical and emotional scars from that violence and abuse. Shame on you for demeaning this serious issue. I and every other victim of FEMALE domestic violence expects a public apology from you. NO domestic violence is acceptable. None.

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Hey ‘@Facts’, here’s some relevant facts for you. Men are VASTLY more likely to be victims of violent crime, but the vast majority of media focus is of course on only the very small minority of victims, women. Men (and a small minority of men) are mostly only violent in the street to other men. Inside the home, women make up a FAR bigger proportion of perpetrators than they do outside. Women also kill more children than men do, but media always used the line “men’s violence against women AND CHILDREN”, when we know WOMEN’S VIOLENCE AGAINST CHILDREN is a bigger issue and continue giving dangerous women custody. Women prefer to destroy people who are intimate with them, destroying mind and psyche through emotional & psychological abuse. Men make up the vast majority of suicides, dropping like flies due to abusive women. Males also make up 40% of those dying in DV, but the only ones anyone in media and public life care about are grown women. Shelters for men to protect themselves or kids? Barely exist at all. Men are told to suck it up, which they do. Then when battered husbands eventually break and start defending themselves, women get hurt back. Men are told by feminists to speak up, that it’s a problem with ‘masculinity’, then when they do, are laughed at and ridiculed. Women with sexist attitudes to DV can get stuffed.

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Seems the Outrage Brigade are going into overdrive over a bit of silly flirting from Chris Gayle to a woman, but ignoring this nasty episode.

Tim, can we start keeping a tally of the Double Standards of Sexism for 2016. I bet the tally will surprise you within a month.

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@David

Sorry, but I wont believe you until you provide a source for these claims you’re making.

And please, nothing from parity.co.uk or any other rubbish Men’s Rights Activist sites.

No one’s saying that women don’t commit violence. However the incidences where they do tend to be stand-alone. The ongoing physical, psychological and sexual abuse stems from an insidious patriarchal society we live in, in which women are seen as second class to men.

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A few people (not ‘men’) point out that this kind of behaviour is wrong and the outright denial and abuse that results is sickening.

Are you a female rights activist for pointing out violence against women exists and is wrong?

No?

Well shut the fuck up and stop bullying people who do the same for men.

Sickening and reprehensible to blame men or ‘the patriarchy’ for this vile and life threatening behaviour.

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Hi Ridiculous

I understand that there is pain in and behind your retort, and that leads us all out of the realms of clarity.

I did not suggest that women’s bodies belong to men, but in a domestic relationship, a sexual union is natural and very beautiful, plus it’s a necessity for men to ejaculate when they have a build-up of testosterone. To suggest they should control it is pretty much the same as suggesting you should control your menses. They make it – they need to release it. In a healthy relationship it is a loving act for them to do so in mutually rewarding love-making.

As @Innocent bystander showed us so comprehensively, and as many people know from first- or second-hand experience, many women do indeed withhold sex when they want their way. It’s been shown many times throughout history. Consider the term ‘pussy power’.

It’s time we women accepted that just because we are usually physically weaker than most men it is not always true that men are the perpetrators and, indeed, this seems to be borne out in the stats cited and the links provided above.

Have you ever considered that your very words are violent? For instance, you were extremely rude in your words to me. I understand your pain and I am sorry that it is so painful for you, but one day my dear I hope you will be able to reflect on things more dispassionately.

BTW I am not a troll but a 70 y/o woman who still works a 50- to 60-hour week (though I am going to cut that back a bit early this year). I have a loving relationship with a 72-year-old man and we make love between two and four times a week – such fun when there is no fear of pregnancy and no kids in the next room that might hear! And it seems that each time we make love it takes our relationship to a deeper and richer level. We’ve both experienced lots of knocks and situations in our lives, including abusive members of both sexes in our families, and understand the games we all play and the sadness and even horror behind some of our dysfunctions.

I tell you all this just because it is so easy for us to write anonymously and to shoot off arrows or bullets to people. There are stories and people on the receiving end, and the bystanders too.

I thank you for being a passionate young woman. I’m a passionate old woman. Probably the only difference between us is that I’ve passed the age of making such rash assumptions and judgements – and I hasten to admit to you I learnt the hard way. 😉

I wish you so much love in channelling that fiery passion of yours into a beautiful and positive life.

Elizabeth

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Its it amazing how all this double standard bullshit of “its always the mans fault” has finally come out, and its so good to see that the real truth about domestic violence is finally being exposed, and the cover ups that have existed for decades are finally being broken down. Looks like 2016 might be the “year of the man”. Woman have had their own way for decades and the tables are finally being turned at last, and about time too!! Lets have some “real” equality and accountability. Politicians and Police and Court systems wake up!! Its 2016 and its about time you all took your heads out of the sand!! Before DV gets much worse!! No wonder 3 times as many men commit suicide compared to woman. That stat alone says it all!! Wake up people!!! Sylvia Jeffreys should be sacked.!! Shame on you!!

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Guys if you’re sick of this emasculating shit and tired of apologizing for being a man, come join the MANOSPHERE.. its the future for non manginas.

https://m.youtube.com/user/SandmanMGTOW?

#MGTOW

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Hi Tim & Team

This is an erratum. I was lying in bed this morning and it hit me that I’d said testosterone instead of sperm yesterday – yes, very different, but I had not been concentrating on that side of the story but rather on trying to point out someone’s behaviour while aiming to not make her feel attacked.

So please read my 4.34pm post as meaning sperm. Here’s a reference: http://www.livingnow.com.au/ar.....ur-destiny – sorry for not checking my facts properly before spouting off. 😉

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“Oh look, it’s the malestream commenters out in force!”

“Those 1 in 3 statistics are BS… Very rarely is the perpetrator a female.”

“Hey MRA-bro’s…”

“…rubbish Men’s Rights Activist sites.”

“Women are allowed to joke about violence against men…”

“It takes two to tango.”

As a man, I’m glad to see ‘the fairer sex’ are out in full force with all of their demeaning, hate-filled opinions on an issue that will never, ever affect them.

Thanks ladies. Thanks a bunch.

In the meantime, why hasn’t [Edited by Mumbrella] Sylvia Jeffreys apologised or been approached for comment?

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It’s untrue that no domestic violence happens to men by boys. In fact, I know since I have experienced it MYSELF from my mom!

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It’s just vulgar the way men have come out with their putrid defensive comments about their individualised “but they do it too so it’s reverse sexism”. It’s another form of men’s attempt to coerce and control women whilst they neglect the patriarchal society that they *still* control. Last time I checked there were still only 8 women sitting in office at Parliament. No actual woman as minister for women and a man making decisions about women’s health. Men taxing women’s hygiene products, men at the helm of when we go to war, men dominating the statistics on violence against women, men dominating statistics on violence against other men and yet here are all the vile comments and not one taking responsibility for the engendered society that we ALL have to live in. Your individual lived experience as a beaten up man should have happened but don’t you dare sit there like you’re the biggest victim in town. It’s everyone’s responsibility to address violence. Sitting there and acting gutted and pointing fingers is just being part of the problem. No wonder the real issues are not being dealt with appropriately…because no one wants to see themselves in the wider context.

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*should not have happened (not should have happened).

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The issue here, is a female presenter is condoning and making fun of domestic violence (against men) on national TV.

Something that should never happen for either sex.

Please stick to the topic and don’t make this all about everything else women suffer, because it’s not. That’s diversionary tactics and not tackling the ‘wider context’ or dealing with the real issue.

It’s man-bashing, plain and simple.

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What a joke. Wake up to yourself. Feminism happened for a reason.

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Unfortunately it’s not a joke. Violence against men is a huge issue that is completely ignored and even joked about by the mainstream society.

This issue isn’t about you or feminism princess, it’s about violence against men.

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@You’re Kidding Right. Go tell this guy, or any of the other 40% of DV homicide victims (males), about the patriarchy: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/.....es/7074916. Happens every day. Notice they didn’t use the words ‘domestic violence’ once though? Because “DV is just VAW” as our PM etc keeps reminding everyone. Why do people despise modern 3rd wave feminists? Because of people like you defending jokes about violence, thinking THAT’S the way to equality. You can go get stuffed. Decent women deserve support. But regressives like you can go to the bottom of the pile.

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I personally grew up watching my Father suffering various forms of abuse, still continues to this day, 45 years on. My Mother also abused me and my sister.
I have many male friends who are recovering from being abused and some still suffering from harassment and attempts to continue control even after relationship break down / ending.
& yes I have many Girlfriends who have been abused by males. My mothers father abused me. Maybe Mum turned out abusive due to suffering at his hands & his example. Cliche but likely I think.
My comments 1) Females definitely abuse, some long-term & generated from their own internal issues
2) males get abused by perpetrators – whether they are female or male is irrelevant to the reality of the abuse occurring

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It really needs to be about solutions and ides.
Not name calling and boys against girls.
Domestic abuse ruins lives.mens. womens. And childrens.
And people need to grow up. Just because it is or isnt on a list dosent change a persons experience. A child watching dv is a victim of dv even though they havent been touched. A man pubished by witholding time with his children. Dv. Then theres women getting bashed by monsters day in day out living in fear, Dv. These gold diggers crying wolf should be outed by you ladies. Can you imagine how many victims of dv have been shrugged off because everyone just expects it now as part of the break up. Poor cops having to deal with it all. Over and over and over again.

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The attitude of some of the commenters here makes me sick.

Domestic violence against men is real. It is just as damaging, if not more damaging as it’s ‘invisible’ in our society, much like DV against women in the 1950s. Many men commit suicide as a result of the acts Innocent Bystander listed.

If you’re a woman and struggling with the concept, and think DV against men is a good thing because of ‘the patriarchy’ or ‘feminism happening for a reason’, just imagine this.

• A male commentator gets onto national TV and says ‘I hope her husband knocks her around a bit’ in response to some harmless flirting.
• The other commentators laugh, and everyone carries on as business as usual.

This needs a voice and I think Jeffreys, who was so passionate about her female friend dying as a result of DV, would be perfect for it.

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What, MRA groups like this?

http://whiteribbon.org/feature.....ce-debate/

The White Ribbon Australia rubbish posted is fraudulent. WRA run at a loss and not a single cent in their annual report talks about money directed to shelters, victims or decreasing events of violence against women happening.

See for yourself in the financials section – interestingly, they pay their staff a whopping amount of the revenue earned.
http://www.whiteribbon.org.au/.....cation.pdf

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The woman responsible for the first ever women’s shelter has interesting views on Domestic Violence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

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“The 1985 U.S. National Family Violence Survey, carried out by Murray A. Straus and Richard J. Gelles on a nationally representative sample of 6,002 couples, found that when a woman called the police to report IPV, the man was ordered out of the house in 41.4% of cases. However, when a man called, the woman was ordered out of the house in 0% of cases. When a woman called, the man was threatened with immediate arrest in 28.2% of cases; when a man called, the woman was threatened with arrest in 0% of cases. When a woman called, the man was threatened with arrest at a later date in 10.7% of cases; when a man called, the woman was threatened with arrest at a later date in 0% of cases. When a woman called, the man was arrested in 15.2% of cases; when a man called, the woman was arrested in 0% of cases. In fact, in 12.1% of cases when the man called, the man himself was arrested.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_against_men

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It is insidious that some in this thread are denying there is violence against men. The debate about domestic violence has been hijacked by feminists and left-wing social engineers.

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The fact that women are defending this situation in the comments, and trying to skew the story to paint men as the only bad guys, blows my mind.

I am a male and have never been in an abusive relationship, but if I find myself in that position in the future, I’m disheartened to think that support for me would be so hard to find.

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lmao [Edited under Mumbrella’s comment moderation policy]

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