Mamamia founder Mia Freedman receives death threats after response from Sunrise’s David Koch over ‘Strippergate’ article

Yawn

Why didn’t Kochie take aim at the Mail Online article? Anyway, to be honest, I don’t care. I don’t care about this story and I really don’t know why this peanut is still on television.

I have a question for Mia Freedman and Jamila Rizvi which is in the ballpark of what has been discussed.

Why is it that if a man goes to a gentlemen’s club and pays a woman to dance on a pole, that is seen by feminists as exploitation. But if that same woman goes to pole dancing studio, pays to learn how to dance on a pole, a skill that could be used at any gentlemen’s club, that is seen by feminists as a woman empowering herself. Why is that?

Now I have a follow up question. Who made the two of you the final arbiters on womens issues? And who made you judge and jury on the actions, decisions and words of men? No arm of government appointed you, no electors voted for you and dare I say it, you have probably never actually studied feminist theory or womens’ issues at a tertiary level.

So really the two of you are just spouting out hot air and expecting us punters to swallow it as something authoritative. The problem is nobody is falling for it, not even your own readers.

Anyone actually seen these death threats? Or did the “staff member” delete them too?
Not a fan of Koch normally, but his line ” If you’re a credible media outlet” when referring to Mamamia is *hilarious*

First world problems alert! Is there a reason why anyone at all should care about all these people or know who they are????

Over-contrived, much?

It’s a shame Mamamia got the facts wrong (saying it was live on air when it was not), as this detracts from Kochie’s actions, which I personally find to be pretty off.

Seven is not a on a good roll at the moment, with this coming after Sam Smith’s dating question to Eugenie Bouchard. They probably need to be more careful.

I’d usually ignore all this… except it’s ironic that Kochie told Freedman to “man up” about the whole thing.

I’m a pole dancer (recreationally) and what I take offense to is that Sam’s shoes in no way look like stripper heels! No platform, no 7 inch heel…

“And I do not like this part of the sisterhood that insists on running down men to be a feminist or part of the sisterhood.” – Sam Armytage. Praise the lord. At last a woman calling out this feminist clap trap that men are being forced to tolerate. I love you Sam.

Seriously, this stuff is happening all the time on Mammamia. Good on Kochie for naming it

Michael Pell and David Koch have one set of rules for Sunrise and another for everyone else. Blocking out the view of the plaza when breast feeding mothers sort to express their opinion when David Koch offended them was ok. But deleting his comment on mummamia was not? Both seem to be not allowing a right of reply or freedom of speech. And Michael Pells “humour” when he is disagreed with is unnecessary superiority.

And so it begins. The Daily Mail spreads its poison down under. Expect plenty more manufactured fake outrage, misogyny and xenophobia over coming weeks…

Mamamia and Seven will both be stoked about the whole thing. Clicks, views & editorial coverage galore.

I’m so over Mamamia. They take aim at companies and individuals and then get upset when those same people fire back. They offer no right of reply either. If the site employed anyone who’d ever actually worked as a journalist, the content might improve.

Apparently Mia was shocked by Koch’s ‘aggressive response to opinion’. I’m no Koch fan but his response may be described as ‘exasperated’ at a stretch but it was pretty rational. Anyway, how would you class Jamila’s original tweets then?? Oh, but it’s ok to be blunt/rude on twitter because you only get 140 characters right?? Anyway, regardless of THESE issues neither Jamilia nor Mia should be receiving threats as a result – probably the only thing we should all universally agree on. And yes, Tim S is right…the Dark Age of DailyMailism beckons…..

MamaMia trying to be relevant when there are not.

Manufactured outrage much?

The only group looking silly here is Mamamia.

Rarely do I agree with anything Kochie says but he is right about something.

Mamamia do heavily censor comments to support their own view / agenda and often ‘sneakily edit’ errors after being caught out.

I certainly hope they are not considered a credible media outlet

Actually in among all of this there is an interesting media/organisational question…..what actually IS Mamamia now if it’s NOT a serious media outlet but nor is it the ‘by mums, for mums’ that it started out as?…neither fish nor fowl. Ambiguity has probably helped them to date but stuff like this should force the issue….

While any sort of personal threat is way out of line, I’m really getting tired of the routine where a media commentator feigns shock and hurt at the angry responses they get when they launch an emotive and highly personal character attack on somebody.

So good to see someone calling Mia Freedman and Mammamia to account at last. It has become a tiresome website. I, too, like men and like working with them. Sue me!

daily mail…why don’t you fix the sun with its pages of women in scantily clad women…before you start ‘fixing’ other countries problem

Silly mamamia….

The whole thing was so obviously a set up anyway, it’s not as if Kochie carries around a stripper pole to fling at women when the opportunity presents itself. Sam made a joke about the shoes, out came the pole, no doubt it was all rehearsed.

At least this issue has exposed Mamamia’s hypocrisy. For a ‘feminist’ site they are constantly running down women who they don’t agree with then censoring critical comments. Anything for clicks.

Mamamia lost relevance with the fact it does not pay its writers. Maybe a token tossed here and there. Hauls in a nice advertising revenue. Free writers loading up opinions maybe the Internet version of the media. But if their writers aren’t worth paying, why expect a high standard?.Sad little ‘feminist’ rant isn’t up there at all. Very amateur project.

My wife subscribes to Mammimia and for the most part they possess some interesting articles on child rearing, friendships and other area’s of life. My wife has sent me some of their articles and they have excellent reads.

The Kochi – Sam episode in my way of thinking was funny with some funny chemistry and flirting. I have worked in offices where both males and females have flirted with me and I’ve flirted back. It makes working fun, builds morale and does not need to lead to accusations of disrespect or sexist behaviour.

I’ve seen Rivsi speak on Television and she comes across as intelligent, if slightly idealistic. I think when she views the chemistry of Koch and Sam she would notice that the occasional playful flirt is they engage makes the audience comfortable because it’s happening in all offices in Australia.
Males and females both engage in it and it makes the world go around!

I read the story on D/M site and was unimpressed with it’s troll baiting. Mammmia got reeled in hook line and sinker.

Comment still awaiting moderation?

Is she paying her writers yet?

crap television, crap programming, crass comments, what else does anyone expect from this country??

Sound the Political Correctness klaxons! There’s an irrelevant pile of nothing over there that we can turn into a hot pile of nothing over here by application of indignation.

Click. Bait.

Finally, someone is calling out Mamamia’s knee-jerk brand of feminism. This website and its commentators rarely contribute anything insightful – they merely rip off overseas stories (in particular Caitlin Moran’s column) and offer outraged first person pieces.

Also, these rape or death threats? Well spun, Mia.

Connor is right – the site has become a force in Australian media… yet has few journalistic credentials and mostly aggregates (summarises/plagiarises?) news from other sources. Interesting that Daily Life is essentially offering a similar service, but manages to pay its writers and content providers.

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All I hear is the tedious sound of a pack of rabid dogs. Move on you feral mutts!

Question: would Mamamia have leveled the same criticism at Karl Stefonovic if it had been him?? I think not! I find this the most interesting aspect of all this!
Nb: not that Karl would or has done this, but I do believe there is an element of Today Show vs Sunrise in all this also… My 2c worth.

I’m not a Kochie fan by any stretch – but good on him for standing up and naming them.

I’m sure more people saw his response than read the original post

I used to quite enjoy Mamamia, but noticed of late an increase in my comments either being censored and not appearing, or completely removed once posted. The MM site does not like it’s readers questioning the basis of their “information”, and when I’ve called them out on a couple of things, my comments have been “conveniently” ignored. It’s writers continually rehash the same topics, and it’s a site full of victim-mentality and double-standards. Sad, because MM could have been a valuable and insightful forum. Thankfully I’ve since found a blog by women who are actively making a difference by working within the fields of education, health and legislation both in Australia and abroad, and not just sitting in airconditioned offices in Sydney’s eastern suburbs “writing” about such things. Not that MM is or ever will be known for is contribution to women’s equality.

@qwerty, indeed. Isn’t it known as ‘Yawning TV’, not ‘Morning TV’?

MamaMia is completely bias with their opinion based articles. Reporting facts doesn’t need to come into it, does it?